Re: Clarification
- From: "Altway" <altway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:53:35 CST
"Harold Arden" <arden4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
> We see that the detectors most certainly see points or particles on the
screen depending on conditions. So it is not a matter of the experimenter's
mind. But it does depend on his choices which are certainly not without
causes. We can tentatively conclude:-
> (5) The motion of an entity through the environment depends on the
interaction of the nature of entity and every point in the environment
through which it passes. It may be that Newtonian Laws of motion are
incorrect.
Comment:-
I would add:-
Newtonian Laws of motion are probably incorrect because there is nothing
that exists in isolation unaffected by its environment and the behaviour of
things depends on their nature, including the energy they contain. Things
are known relative to other things. Therefore, nothing can be said about
something that is moving in isolation.
I would also add another point:-
(7) The dichotomy between mind and matter on which Western science is based
since Descartes is wrong. There is no justification for it - (it is merely
assumed that the electron does not know.) We do not see things as they are
(as Allah sees them), but we experience them and this is an interaction that
depends not only on the nature of the thing, but also on the nature of our
minds and our relationship with it. We have assumptions, motives and actions
which elicit reactions. There are no facts that have not been interpreted
with respect to past expeiences and human motives and there are no actions
that do not flow from motives modified by past experiences. An illusion of
objectiviy is created because of the consensus of scientists trained in the
same way, using the same language and instrument in the same conditions.
> However, all this is advanced only as a possibility. What is certain is
> that
fundamentally existence, reality, is very much different from what is
normally and superficially seen. It is also possible to describe this
differently according to purpose one has - industry and commerce, social
application or psychological adjustment to Reality.
Comment:-
Yes the same facts can be interpreted and organised in several different
ways.
So, we must distinguish between the facts as they are, the data of
experience
and the interpretation which result from processing of the data. One reaches
Truth by greater conscious interaction with Reality - through increasing
awareness, rather than by mere verbal means. This is makes the difference
between the religion and science.
This is not deny that science is useful - it does provide us with new facts
and expands knowledge and understanding. Other areas of life - industry,
commerce, art, and politics also have these effects. Science is not
independent of these. It is an art form and is involved with industry and
politics. One needs to disentangle the various objective, social and
subjective factors. It is part of the function of life to discriminate,
filter and separate the evolutionary and involutionary processes. It is a
typically Islamic attitude that life itself provides all the facilities and
opportunities that can be used for spiritual or psycological development and
that withdrawal from it is a mistake.(Quran 57:27)
Hamid S. Aziz
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