Re: An excellent book about islam



"Uncle_Sinbad" <kamal8877@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Salaam Kamal,

> I don't think we should make things more complex then they are.
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Comment:-
I agree.

> Bertrand Russel was as you said a logical-positivist, meaning he only
> accepted reason and the senses as a reliable means to gain knowledge.

Comment:-
I don't necessarily disagree.

> ... You can not make a blind man see the sun. You can only point to
another
> level that he is not aware of, e.g. the heat of the sun.
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Comment:-
I don't dispute what you say. However, the context of this 'subject'
discussion originally, was Russell's "Why I'm not a Christian", which
neither you and I are, for obviously different religious reasons, since all
Muslims as individuals are not Christians. It was this 'point' I was feebly
trying to make clear, in other words, don't confuse the 'words' with the
'thing' or vice versa. As you rightly mentioned the "sun", as a 'thing' we
'point' to in the sky, which a blind man cannot see, but, most probably, can
conceive as a 'word' or 'concept' (idea, sic) in the mind. That's all.

> The essence of religion is spirituality, wich is in the heart. ...
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Comment:-
It goes with out saying that the locus of feelings and intuitions of all
revealed religions, Islam or otherwise, are from the 'heart', being the
'word' not the 'thing', once again. It's those feelings and intuitions
issued from the 'heart' that provide all-encompassing spirituality, the
choicest or most essential or most vital part of some idea or experience.

But, as a medieval scholar pointed out, 'Determinatio est negatio' ( 'to
define is to deny'). Perhaps, there is a lesson in that for us all.

--
Peace
--
Examine what is said, not him who speaks. -Arabic Proverb

Zuiko Azumazi.
azumazi@xxxxxxxxxxx

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