Re: "Forbidden" science

On Jul 23, 10:49 am, Douglas McAdam <douglasmca...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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Thank you for your response. I only have a few more questions about a
few
parts. Because of this I've snipped material that I did not have any
further
comments or questions on, so what little I do have doesn't get "lost"
among all the
stuff.

Yeah, but why try to justify it? Is it because they'd think if they
don't,
then that's caving into prejudice, or supporting prejudice? (Even
though
prejudice is also wrong too.)

  I thought I had explained the why but let me try again.  Most peopl
e  

try to rationalize any behavior that society thinks is bad behavior.  

We try to justify the use of alcohol and drugs, criminal behavior,  
sexual promiscuity, etc., etc., etc.  So homosexuals or transsexuals
 
will try to find ways to have their behavior and condition accepted.  


Why is it that we try and justify *every*thing like that? To me
it sounds like nobody wants to live with any sort of law or rule
and wants to believe anything and everything is OK to do.

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I.e. they see the problems with most mainstream religion, yet react to
it in
the wrong manner: toss out _all_ religion and toss out spiritual
growth.

Yes, and for sure there are lots of examples of traditional  
religionists acting in ways that appear contrary to what a true  
religion teaches.  Witness the current debate between Evolutionists  
and Creationists for example.


Agreed.

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I can only share my own limited understanding of things but it seems  
to me that if God has given us the principle of the harmony of faith  
and reason that produces our sciences and religions and tells us they  

are fundamentally in unity and harmony then that must mean we can use  

our reasoning powers to investigate and validate or invalidate  
spiritual realities.  Of course I will say there is no way to prove  
the existence of God and maybe some other beliefs but yet all we can  
really observe is the effects of things.  Here is are two paragraphs
 
from an essay a friend of mine wrote.


So then what is the justification behind these beliefs? As don't
you need, say, to believe in God before you can accept
Baha'u'llah as a messenger of God?

    "Up to the present time, modern science has concentrated entirely
 

on understanding material reality, the assumption being that this is  
the only reality.  Hence, scientific attempts to understand man have
 
reflected the same assumption, with limited results.  Modern Western
 
medicine, for instance, is now confronting the evidence of successful  

forms of healing not dependent on the cause and effect relationships  
explicable by the laws of chemistry and physics.  It is evident that
 
belief, faith, trust, and hope have an effect on patients.  But, until
 

there is a science of reality that rests on the assumption of non-
actual forms of reality as well as actual forms of reality, from which
 

a new medicine can be developed, modern, Western medical science will  

remain out of touch with many of the essential realities of man which  

are immaterial in nature, including many of those directly involved in
 

the promotion of physical health and healing.

Throughout history, human beings have felt compelled to accept what  
has been intuitively self-evident about themselves, namely that the  
phenomenon of life includes far more than a mere collection of  
chemical compounds.  The “far more” part of life has been and is
 
variously referred to as the soul or spirit, etc.  Such acceptance  
gave rise to religion, philosophy, and the arts.  Science, however,  
having adopted a more limited assumption about the nature of reality  
of man, has, for this reason, made its major achievement in  
understanding the lower ontological levels of being that are primarily
 

dominated by the physical laws of physics and chemistry.  It is for  
this reason that we have achieved such incredible technological  
advancements, but have not made too much progress in moral and social  

development."


How is it though that we need more comprehensive assumptions in
***science*** in order to advance in the moral and social areas of
development?

Sorry for such a long reply my friend,

God bless,

doug


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