Re: We don't want to see God with our own eyes, or hear his melody with our own ears



Howdy Kent,

Nice hearing from you Kent.

When I contrast these words of Baha'u'llah's:

Rely upon God, thy God and the Lord of thy fathers. For the people
are wandering in the paths of delusion, bereft of discernment to see
God with their own eyes, or hear His Melody with their own ears. Thus
have We found them, as thou also dost witness.

Thus have their superstitions become veils between them and their own
hearts and kept them from the path of God, the Exalted, the Great.

(Compilations, Baha'i Prayers, p. 210)

... with these words of Councellor Rebequa Murphy's*, I can't help
but notice a profound disconnect between the two statements:

* "We don't want to be those people who want to see God with their
own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we
have been given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of
the House of Justice and listen through the ears of the House of
Justice."

The problem with Rebequa's delivery of this statement at National
Convention is that because of her position of Administerial authority
as a Councellor, which exceeds the authority of the USA NSA itself,
her statement must be viewed as a delivery of official Baha'i
doctrine.

Not too ironically when contrasting these two statements of
Baha'u'llah's and Rebequa's it becomes apparent that according to
Baha'u'llah's statement the "gift" that Rebequa refers to qualifies as
the very: "veils" of:"superstition", which Baha'u'llah clearly points
out cause the people to wander: "the paths of delusion bereft of
discernment to see God with their own eyes or hear his melody with
their own ears."

Thus the belief that the UHJ can see God and hear God for the entire
community of Baha' is, in Baha'u'llah's own words, nothing but
"superstition".

You're quite right Kent my understanding is very different than
Rebequa's. Problem is that my understanding disqualifies me from
membership in the Baha'i faith because it is diverse from the
understanding that has now been publicly pronounced by the ITC itself
as being unquestionable Baha'i dogma.

I agree Kent that no two people understand the Baha'i faith exactly
in the same manner. The real problem is Kent that the understanding of
individuals such as Councellor Murphy and other religious leaders in
the Baha'i faith have been set up as a standard by which qualification
for membership in the Baha'i faith is set. If you do not fit within
this standard you may well have your identity as a Baha'i erased,
simply rubbed out, because it does not conform to the personal
understanding of certain Baha'i religious leaders.

Herein lays the problem Kent. How in the world to possibly be a
positive force for the reconciliation of the religions of the world
when it seems impossible for Baha'is to even reconcile the minor
differences that exist between the understandings of individual
Baha'is?

Yours

Larry Rowe


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