Re: Females are out of UHJ!
- From: Gilberto Simpson <gilberto.simpson@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:59:25 CST
I would say the original word "daraba" can have other meanings besides
beat. And in any case, there are a series of other verses or specific
instructions from Muhammad which says things like "Do not beat the
handmaidens of Allah" etc.
In your mind, would you actually try to justify the idea that a just
and merciful God gave husbands the right to beat their wives for over
a thousand years? How do you even get your mind around that?
On 2/15/06, Firouz <firouz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Yassir and nice to hear from you after long time.And the position of women in Islam is more fullfilling? How
What would you say about the verse 4:34 of Quran?
Why women should be beaten?
YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has
given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them
from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and
guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to
those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them
(first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly);
but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance):
For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of
them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the
support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that
which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish
them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you,
seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them
to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women
are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as
to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them
alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not
seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
Yes God said they will have a mighty reward.
Sura The Allies
(33) verse 35 (Qur'an)Surely the men who submit and the women who submit,
and the believingmen and the believing women, and the obeying men and the
obeying women,and the truthful men and the truthful women, and the patient
men andthe patient women and the humble men and the humble women, and
thealmsgiving men and the almsgiving women, and the fasting men and
thefasting women, and the men who guard their private parts and the
womenwho guard, and the men who remember Allah much and the women
whoremember Allah has prepared for them forgiveness and a mighty
"There are no poets"
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