Re: More on Canajun homo/marital jurisprudence / Mop&Pail
- From: Christian Hansen <chrishansenhome@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:47:44 +0000 (UTC)
On 30 Aug 2005 14:06:46 -0500, tmcd@xxxxxxxxx (Tim McDaniel) wrote:
>>It's a very old and very common distinction, and it's all about
>>"legitimacy" of offspring. I believe the Catholic definition -
>>quoted by Joyce in Ulysses - specifically calls out that
>>"intromission" must take place.
>
><http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01163a.htm> has the 1913 Catholic
>Encyclopedia:
>
> Adultery is defined as carnal connection between a married person
> and one unmarried, or between a married person and the spouse of
> another. It is seen to differ from fornication in that it supposes
> the marriage of one or both of the agents. Nor is it necessary
> that this marriage be already consummated; it need only be what
> theologians call matrimonium ratum. Sexual commerce with one
> engaged to another does not, it is most generally held, constitute
> adultery. Again, adultery, as the definition declares, is
> committed in carnal intercourse. Nevertheless immodest actions
> indulged in between a married person and another not the lawful
> spouse, while not of the same degree of guilt, are of the same
> character of malice as adultery (Sanchez, De Mat.,
> L. IX. Disp. XLVI, n. 17). It must be added, however, that
> St. Alphonsus Liguori, with most theologians, declares that even
> between lawful man and wife adultery is committed when their
> intercourse takes the form of sodomy (S. Liguori L. III, n. 446).
>
> Among savages generally adultery is rigorously condemned and
> punished. ...
>
>It gets thoroughly disgusting below, and Christianity is at least some
>reform (in my insufficiently humble opinion):
>
> In the Mosaic Law, as in the old Roman Law, adultery meant only
> the carnal intercourse of a wife with a man who was not her lawful
> husband. The intercourse of a married man with a single woman was
> not accounted adultery, but fornication. The penal statute on the
> subject, in Lev., xx, 10, makes this clear: "If any man commit
> adultery with the wife of another and defile his neighbor's wife
> let them be put to death both the adulterer and the adulteress."
> (See also Deut., xxii, 22.)
> ...
> In the Christian law this discrimination against the wife is
> emphatically repudiated. ...
> [Except]
> Finally, it is to be observed that in case only one of the parties
> to adultery is married, a more heinous sin is committed when the
> married person is the woman than when she is the unmarried
> agent. For in the former instance the due process of generation is
> not infrequently interfered with, to the injury of the lawful
> husband; moreover, uncertainty of parentage may result, and even a
> false heir may be imposed upon the family. Such a distinction as
> is here remarked, therefore, calls for specification in the
> confessional.
> ...
> Whenever it is certain that the offspring is illegitimate, and
> when the adulterer has employed violence to make the woman sin,
> ...
>
>Yes, it really does that that if a married woman is raped under threat
>of her life, she has sinned.
Moral Theology as she is taught by the acolytes of the Scarlet Whore of
Babylon is quite interesting indeed.
I do think that the revised Canon Law that was promulgated (finally) in the
1980's may have something to say about this.
(Parenthetical comment: while searching for the new Code of Canon Law, I came
across this imaginative 404 page: http://www.ung.com/Catholic_Resources.htm )
I looked through the Code's section of marriage, and there are few references
to adultery; most of them have to do with receiving an adulterous spouse back
into the marital home once s/he repents, or as a reason for the local Ordinary
to grant permission for the couple to separate.
I think that the 1913 definitions and explanations of adultery are probably
still mostly valid, but are downplayed by the Church. I did a quick google but
found nothing useful. Most of the references had to do with divorced RCs
moaning about being adulterers in the eyes of the SW of B if they remarried.
Chris "I believe it's still Church teaching that a celibate person is living
in a more holy state of life than a married one." Hansen
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