Re: God made no masters and no servants
- From: PolishKnight <marek1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:42:47 -0500
In article <20110209040908.BCC98621C18@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Andrew Usher <03391618@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As you know, calling the two sides 'socialist' and 'capitalist'
is totally misleading. The so-called culture war is mostly not
real difference but artificially exaggerated by politics.
Yeah, it's so wrong for people to call things what they are and have
opinions you disapprove of.
You don't have the right to define what I mean by those terms.
When you use them here, it's clear that you intend the common
definitions to be understood, not your private definition. And I
have said that by the common definitions, calling the divide
between Democrats and Republicans socialist vs. capitalist is
nonsense.
It's hardly nonsense. While there politicians in both parties who are
going to be considered "moderates" and wing towards the other side, this
only illustrates the general direction and platform of both parties with
the Republicans tending towards capitalism and Democrats for big
government socialism.
An easy way to test this hypothesis is this: Are there any platforms you
would consider "socialist" that the Republicans do a better job on
versus the Democrats? And on the other side, would the Democrats be
more 'capitalistic' than the Republicans?
Of course everyone can see that Obama isn't really trying. He
could have insisted on single-payer,
Why not call [it] socialist big-government healthcare?
I didn't invent the term 'single payer'.
Irrelevent. Whether you invented the term or not, I asked why you used
that term.
I use it because that's
what most neutral people call it.
Unsupported claim. In addition, you have revealed a bias that you
consider "neutral" people to use your terminology and thinking. This is
clearly a term used by the left to hide the socialist nature of the
program.
A more neutral term would be something such as nationalized healthcare
but that has been outed as being synonymous with socialist. Your denial
of this obvious word-play indicates that you can't just come out and
admit you're a leftist.
Unlike you I don't play games
with nomenclature.
Andrew Usher
Projectionism.
Andrew, I freely say that I politically favor capitalist or free market
healthcare. I'm not in a denial game and willing to live with the
negative connotations of the wording for my position on that matter.
The term "single payer" is a cheap trick by people who love socialism
but are ashamed to say so.
That's ALL your problem.
regards,
PolishKnight
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