Re: Earth Hour...



On May 11, 8:39 pm, PolishKnight <mar...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
<ac634950-a3c6-4713-9964-1b26410b7...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
 Andre Lieven <andrelie...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:





On May 6, 6:41 pm, PolishKnight <mar...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 6, 2:04 am, "Heidi Graw" <hg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>"PolishKnight"
<mar...@xxxxxxx> wrote in

(snip)
PK wrote:

I haven't ever met my landlady directly.  I rented through an agent
and the landlady came by once when my wife was home.  As I pointed out
to MarkB, owners in our area don't enjoy any greater privileges since
condos and townhouses have associations that treat them like renters.
Unlike them, I can move away if I get annoyed enough.

Some association stories are funny.  One guy I know WITH A HOUSE had
the association woman come by and go onto his property and get out a
ruler and try to measure how high his grass was so she could try to
fine him.  He told her to get off or he would call the police.

I'm just hopping in on this one point. My wife's parents live in an
"active adult community", which is a gated development. So, it
most certainly has a homeowner's association, and one where the
politics get far more cutthroat than anything I've seen on the US
national level of late.

Here's the short version of the tale. Her folks wanted to repaint the
exterior of their house. They followed the procedure (Which includes
writing to the association, with the colour plan and sample
enclosed.),
which gave the association 30 days to say "No".

At 27 days, they started to paint (Her dad said that, if the
association
had said "No" to that colour in the next 3 days, he would have eaten
the cost of re-repainting.). Nothing was heard until more than two
months later, when the association said No. Well, that led to some
litigation (My wife is a para-legal, so she was able to help with
filings,
and documents.), which her dad won solidly, but it took more than
a year, and during that year, at times, the association tried to fine
them, and did bar them from attending several community events held
at the development's clubhouse, including baring them from a New
Year's Eve party. How nice, eh ?

My father in law even got back 80% of his legal costs, and the judge
said that the only reason he didn't get 100% of them, was that he
had started to paint on Day 27, and not Day 30.

"All politics is local." <g>

Andre

I've talked with a number of people who live in associations and they
tell me the overall attitude they have is to get across that they "rule"
and that even following the rules, to the letter, doesn't exempt someone
from being punished if they try to offend them.

So kudos to your in-laws, Andre.  They proved it could be done albeit
after a lot of heart ache.  At the same time, no doubt the association
had to account eventually for wasting their residents' legal money on a
court battle.  Do you have a follow up?  What happened to the
association or at least the officers?

regards,
PolishKnight- Hide quoted text -

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This is interesting, you and Jill and Andre and Borgerson all talking
with one another. Have the contents of all the killfiles been put
asied?
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