Re: The Schwarzenegger his voters thought... (was: January: White Male History Month -- Today, 1800-1918

On Jan 23, 1:54 pm, "Society" <Soci...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"PolishKnight" <mar...@xxxxxxx> wrote in message

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Society wrote:

PolishKnight wrote...

I just read in AmSpec that Schwartzenneggar is going over
the edge:

http://www.amspec.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12600
Terminator Limits

The Schwarzenegger California's voters thought they were
getting would not have responded to looming economic
disaster by choosing to "close 48 parks, release tens of
thousands of inmates early and roll back or eliminate
healthcare programs for the needy" instead of slashing
the actual wasteful spending on departments and
entitlements which have bloated California's budget
to its current size. [...]

I expected that Schwarzenegger. That's why _I_ never
voted for him. State Senator Tom McClintock was my man.
And the Schwarzenegger California's voters thought
they were getting would not have called a meeting
with the editorial and reportorial staff of the
Los Angeles Times for the purpose of apologizing
for his misguided adherence -- however fleeting and
ineffective -- to even semi-conservative principles.

Uh, what made those voters think _that_?!! Those voters
kept voting the most disgustingly pinko Democrats from
the Los Angeles Times' circulation area right back
into office. Those servants of the LA's lefty voters have
kept serving up the pork to their constituents and voting
in every crackpot scheme that can be dreamed up in a
Santa Monica pot party. I suppose those deluded voters
imagined that, like in his movies, Arnold Schwarzenegger
could solve everything single-handedly.

Agreed. But Schwarzenegger also helped to give them
that impression by promising all those commie socialist
programs. The money had to come from somewhere...

Uh, what "commie socialist programs" did Schwarzenegger
promise in his 2003 campaign? And 2006 re-election
campaign?

Frankly, I see a certain amount of historical revisionism
being practiced at _The American Spectator_ for the
purpose of enhancing the bite of their political mockery.

That's what happens when a so-called "fiscal conservative"
also tries to be a social liberal.

Schwarzenegger, a fiscal conservative?



And with this, who needs prop 13? :-)

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8U7RVFO0.htm?ref=patric...

Median home price tumbles in California

The median price of a home in California tumbled
nearly 15 percent amid a steep drop in sales in December,
a real estate research firm said Thursday.

Gee, December, the slowest month for real estate sales.
Bet'cha a tumble in prices and a steep drop in home sales
happens every December, good years and bad.

Society, read the URL!!! Those are year to year
(the standard for most real estate losses reported
in the media.)

I _did_ read the URL. And the article it links to as well. ;-)

Because that "15 percent" figure is year-to-year, why the
gloomy phrase "amid a steep drop in sales in December"?
The wording suggests that most of the drop occurred in
December.

That's actually a very conservative figure, BTW, since
"median" prices don't necessarily reflect the increase
of decrease of properties. If some billionaire sells off
a few acres of Malibu RE at a loss to get out of the market,
that makes the market look like it's going up.

Uh, I disagree. Perhaps you're confusing "median" with
"mean", the arithmetic average. The median of a sample
is the value at which half of the sample has a value above
the median and half has a value below. One $100 million
dollar sale in a real estate market the size of Los Angeles
county's won't even budge the median home price reported
in the _LA Times_. A single huge transaction could move
the mean price quite significantly.

Anyway, despite all the talk of a plunge in home prices
most homeowners aren't affected much -- one could say
that all that's happened is that prices have reset back
to the levels of 2003 from their summer-2005 peaks.

And it's only the beginning and it's not just "talk."

It's nothing but "talk" to everyone making their payments
and not planning to move anytime soon.

As for "it's only the beginning", if you can see that clearly
then please loan me your crystal ball. The stock market
is having a sale and I'd like to pick out a few bargain stocks
that will be going back up. ;-)

Unfortunately, a lot of homeowners got home equity loans
and may wind up upside-down in their mortgages. [...]

I lived through that sort of situation back in the early 1980s
and again in the 1990s. As long as the homeowner can
service the debt, there's not much immediate pressure to
sell as the doom-sayers suppose. IME, too many of the
financial talking heads forget that people live in houses,
not in stocks.



Really, the people who are being hurt are the ones who
took a speculative plunge by buying too many houses
(one only needs _one_ house to live in), buying a too
expensive house (while counting on another sucker
showing up to take it off of ones hands at a still-higher
price later), or hocking ones existing house with a
new mortgage based on those overextended prices
(functionally equivalent to buying an overpriced house).

Agreed and fortunately not everyone was that foolish.

Unfortunately, politicians of the pandering wings of
both incumbent parties are lining up to get some TV
face-time by proclaiming their support for Government
Action (tm). Yecch!!! This election year, I may well
be holding my nose and voting for whatever nut the
Libertarian Party puts up. "You're throwing away
your vote!" some folks with too much faith in government
(like talk-back radio impresario Michael Medved)
will say. Yeah, but I should throw my vote away
on _their_ lesser-of-two-evils candidate? Phooey,
I don't want _any_ evil!

I thought only illegals could vote for the Libertarians. :-)

Ha ha.

Does Romney support a bailout?

Of homeowners or Detroit auto makers and their unions? ;-)

I haven't heard Romney say anything about bailing out
homeowners. His remarks while campaigning in Michigan
disturbed me tho'.



The median price fell to $402,000 last month, down
14.8 percent from $472,000 in the year-ago period,
according to DataQuick Information Systems.

Gee, I guess they won't have money to pay for all those
after school programs and free learjets for illegal
immigrants. :-)

Sure they will. The 60%-majority Democrat legislature
will close the parks to free up some cash in the budget. ;-)

You don't imagine for one minute that Ahnold is going
to close the California Museum of Women and History
that is his wife's baby, do you? (I see that damn thing
every time I take the trolley to one of the local colleges
and it irritates me to no end every time. Sometimes
I chat up one of my friendly coffee-sipping state worker
fellow passengers about it. I ask, "Where's the California
Museum of _Men_ and History?" and the conversation
goes on from there. Subversive, I am. ;-)

One of the changes made in California's state and local
government financing since voters passed Proposition 13
30 years ago this June is that property tax revenue now
goes mostly to the state. Today, sales taxes are the main
source of money for local governments.

It looks like I left just in the nick of time.

Yeah, that's what it looks like.

Howz the weather? :-)

The winter storms have been late in coming but they've
arrived, much to the relief of the ski resort operators
in the Sierras. [...] All talk of drought among the pretty
faces in the local TV stations newsroom sets has
pretty much, ahem, dried up :-) now that the Central
Valley has gotten a good watering. Currently,
the pretty faces on the local TV "news" spend their
on-screen time chattering about the flood risk to
Sacramento, "it's the next New Orleans" blah blah.
{Yawn} It's a not-terribly-unusual winter here in the
Golden State.

It looks like you're growing some more weeds for the next
summer fire again. :-)

Drought, fire, flood, and earthquake -- those are California's
four seasons. ;-)



--
The first thing that European intellectuals did, when the
thirteen colonies were free of England, was to establish
communism here. Hancock, Harvard, Shirley, Tyringham, in
Massachusetts; Alfred and New Glouscester in Maine; Mount
Lebanon, Watervliet, Groveland, Oneida (Community silver)
in New York; South Union and Pleasant Hill in Kentucky;
Bethlehem and Economy in Pennsylvania; Union Village,
North Union, Watervliet, Whitewater, and Zoar in Ohio;
Enfield and Wallingford, Connecticut; Bishop Hill, Illinois;
Corning and Bethel, Missouri; Cedarvale, Kansas; Aurora,
Oregon; and scores of other American towns and cities,
were communist settlements. In the flowering of New England,
Emerson's friends created the communist blossom of Brook
Farm. Mr. Upton Sinclair, recently almost elected Governor
of California, first established his world-wide renown as a
revolutionist by founding the communist settlement of Halicon
Hall in New Jersey.

Rose Wilder Lane, _The Discovery of Freedom_ (1943)
Arno Press reprint edition of 1972, page 6.

Amazing. We had every nut settle down here, didn't we? :-)

Yep. The whole country is thick with 'em. Can't swing a
dead PETA member anywhere in America without hitting one.

<smile> Ain't that the truth. We got alot of misfits with the
European wave of immigration but they were creative and helped fuel
innovation. Now with this wave of Mexican peasant immigrants we have
a new slave class to service Herr Hitlary and her sugar daddies! Too
bad it is at the cost of deballing the innovative men. I guess the
Chineese will pick up that slack.

Interesting discussion you two are having. You should go on the John
and Ken Show. Man are they ripping The Terminator a new one.

The weather in SoCal is very wet and cold. My tent got the brunt of
the storm.

Smitty

--
Adverse circumstances alone do not bring on a reformation
or a renewal: for a people to take arms against a sea
of
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