Re: OT: Canada Posts Whopping 13.8 Billion Surplus

On Sep 29, 10:05 pm, Ben <ArGe...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 29, 9:36 pm, PolishKnight <mar...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
[...]
I was wondering when you'd pop in--this is one of your favorite topics
as well. As far as tongue---a gentlemen never tells (ducking).

Hello Ben,

Google clipped your post halfway in my response so I guess I should be
more ruthless about editing.

I really don't like getting into flame wars with Andre and Jill. I
like discussing men's issues here because I think they really are the
most exciting, controversal ones of our time. Socialized healthcare?
Pulease. If you want to see people go into a tizzy, say sincerely
that you think women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

That said, let's get into a knife fight over "more taste, less
filling"...

Er, how about cheap pharmaceuticals? :-)

I was wondering what you thought about that? I think THAT'S the jab
that hurts the pride of the socialists the most.

They like to think of themselves as so advanced but... even our Boeing
is making planes that EUROPEAN airlines want to buy rather than the
airbust. Is it just me, or is Europe just one big theme park and
Canada a big lumber mill?

Yes, Canada has oil, gas, and hyrdo but that's less of a testament to
Canada's superior government and more about their huge natural
resources.

Good catch--I'd neglected to bring that up.

Thanks.

The same goes for the U.S.: Much of the success we enjoyed here is due
to both our geographic remoteness combined with trade and culture with
Europe along with natural resources. That said, however, rule of law
and protection for business also played a huge part in creating jobs
and therefore a healthy economy.

But it's clear to nearly everyone that the U.S. government is so
dysfunctional when it comes to administration that it would muck up
the healthcare system even more than it is already.

Regarding health care, I don't believe there's any government that is
doing it all that well.

It's basically like Education/Roads/Food all wrapped up into one.
People get all antsy about their healthcare and for understandable
reasons. Consequently, it's become overregulated and a mess and it's
easy to exploit people's fears.

Even the leftists here are terrified of what would happen to the
economy and healthcare if Hillary and her buddies got a hold of it.

Are you kidding? Lefties are just fighting over *which* socialist
wannabe they want to elect, not whether or not there should be one in
office.

Bill Clintons record as a socialist, as you know, is one of successful
failure (reminds me of Apollo 13). He "balanced the budget" because
he had to let Greenspan and the Republicans run things while he kept
himself from paying out his SH lawsuit (which he ultimately did
anyway.)

Then wala, his "legacy" became "fiscal conservatism".

Most sensible leftists (if there is such a thing) secretly sigh with
relief when these huge boondoggles are shut down. It's like they're
children who are secretly happy when their parents ground them. F'ed
up, sure.

So leftists I know in the working classes in New Jersey and retirement
communities largely just like to bash GW and want Clinton elected, but
not for her to really do anything.

You're right: Osama Obama REALLY believes this stuff and that's why he
won't win the primaries: He's not playing the game and is actually
telling people he's serious. What a LOSER!

I view GW as an awful candidate. He deserved to lose. Twice. But
his opponents were just so awful that he just had to walk over the
finish line. Leftists like the senate and congress where there is
little accountability since it's one mass of corrupt scum and villany,
to paraphrase Obi Wan Kenobi, and will flush out pork to them.
Presidents can't flush out "pork" to specific districts. It's all or
nothing.

I think the most significant impact would be WWI. Clearly, without
U.S. involvement there probably would have been an armistance on the
European mainland and the Prussian empire would have continued. This
probably would have been better for Poland since without Hitler, it
wouldn't have suffered the ravages of WWII and communism afterwards.

We can probably safely assume that Lenin would still be in Russia but
with a stable mainland Europe and strong prussian (Prussian?, Andre...
is that German/Austria?) empire, communism in the former, much smaller
USSR would have been contained and eliminated more quickly (possibly
by 1940's). No WWII, no Hiroshima. Also, no Israel and no anti-
western middle east. Germany would have replaced the United States as
the conservative force opposing the USSR in the cold war.

Without white guilt in the U.S. combined with feminism and marxism,
political correctness would have died on the vine. Women would have
the right to vote in most western countries, but that would probably
be it. No reverse discrimination or strong man hating sentiments.
Feminists who suggested in the 1950's "equality in the workplace"
would be laughed out of the room.

Conclusion: The U.S. did a good job of cleaning up the mess they made
in WWI. We've done a LOUSY job of cleaning up the mess we made with
the civil war.

That's quite a number of leaps there. Interesting, but speculative at
best.

Agreed. Then again, if historians and economists were so brilliant
they would be billionaires and not historians and economists,
right? :-)

That said, it's a lot of leaps but my point is that the U.S.
involvement is by no means confined to WWII and Hitler. We need to
look at the whole history and impact upon world affairs. A single
incident (WWI) in a timeline can mean more than anything that follows
it. States rights and loss of a right to secession was especially
significant.

Imagine... the world issues that could have been resolved, peacefully,
if secession was viewed as a solution to many problems such as Iraq's
conflicts between different ethnic and religious groups, Turkey's
Kurds and Armenian population, etc. "Federalism" has been responsible
for many blood purges just as religion and communism.

Just something to think about...

'night. Damn, I hate windows. Gotta get back to MX-Newsreader...

regards,
PolishKnight

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