Re: Sweating the Birth Rate

On Jul 30, 1:19 pm, patrick.bar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Jul 30, 10:39 am, Ben <ArGe...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Jul 30, 10:29 am, catbrie...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Jul 29, 8:21 pm, "Meldon_F...@xxxxxxxxxx" <meldon_f...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

"....European birthrates of the 1980's, already at record-breaking
lows, fell another 20 percent in the 90's, to about 1.4 children per
woman. The demographer Antonio Golini says such rates are
'unsustainable'....."

"....Never before have birthrates fallen so far, so fast, so low, for
so long all around the world....."

http://artsci.wustl.edu/~anthro/courses/361/wattenberg.html

Naturally someone at The American Enterprise Institute is going to be
on the verge of panic at the thought of declining PROFITS due to a
stabilizing world population.

I don't think this is the primary concern. A stabilized population
can still spend in increasing amounts.

That's just too damned bad. The
environmental pay-off outweighs Wattenburg's narrow concerns over an
ever-expanding market. (A stupid notion anyway on a planet with finite
resources.)

The primary concern with birth rates is that while they are falling
among citizens in Western-style civilizations, the reverse is true
with immigrants, especially illegal ones, and especially Islamic
ones. In effect, you're ending up replacing a voting population that
believes in democracy and individual rights with a voting population
that doesn't.

Is there any way to handle that situation, to keep the system the way
it is, that isn't itself a violation of democratic principles to begin
with? If our society leads towards an end result of self destruction,
how do we change that without changing the society?

There is no right to immigration, nor is it a violation of democratic
principles to require that those whom we do allow to immigrate be
required to assimilate into this culture. Currently, we're seeing a
Balkanization of our culture that simply can't continue if we're to
maintain it, and that's the passive endeavors. One of the least-
reported stories in the MSM is the repatriation movement among Mexican
immigrants.


I simply see no solution to this issue that doesn't seek to preserve
democracy by sacrificing it.

Restrict immigration. Address the current problem of illegal
immigration by penalizing employers. Enforce the borders. Do away
with the concept of "anchor babies". Refuse anything but emergency or
urgent medical care to illegal immigrants. None of these things
endangers a democracy.

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