Re: Men are 'too frightened to give women the compliments they need

On May 27, 7:56 pm, PolishKnight <mar...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 27, 5:12 pm, Hyerdahl <Hyerda...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On May 27, 2:03 pm, PolishKnight <mar...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I've asked Parg and Marg on this forum before to be specific about what
they think makes me a bad husband or even bad friend for women. Sure, I
hold political views that they may disagree with, but isn't their
philosophy of choice and freedom supposed to be about people entitled to
their own views?

Any person who has to buy another person makes a bad mate, simply
because the slave will never love the master.

As I've observed before, most men "buy" mates in one form or another
and you've cynically defended women who demand to be bought provided
it's to their advantage. So does this mean, then, that most women
prefer "bad mates?"

I don't agree with your premise, Mark. Dating and who pays does not
infer buying a mate, and today, since most women work outside the
home, even paying for a spouse thru income is passe'. However, men
should (and often do) pay for a spouse while she's gestating and/or
raising their family, and that is not about buying a wife, but rather
a reciprocal arrangement. Men who don't like or want that need not
have children OR they can marry a woman who would prefer another
arrangement.

In addition, you've argued that my wife isn't a slave but rather
enjoying the benefits including becoming "another American wife".

I think your alleged wife has made a trade, her citizenship and the
opportunity for a better life, for drugery with you for the time
necessary. Slaves sometimes make bargains with their masters but
that does not change their status, as slaves.

It's the nature of that particular bargain. I would never have, as a friend or mate, a person> who did not see me as their equal, by gender, and as equally deserving > of rights,

Sure you did. You were married at one time (and probably before you
embraced feminism when men's sexual attentions for you waned.)

No, Mark; I've never married. I had certainly considered marriage
when I was younger, and had several offers of matrimony. My life has
not taken a traditional course, or I might have married when I was
younger.
Today, I won't likely marry since I know the legal underpinnings and
history of marriage, and I don't find it a worthwhile institution.
Back when I was younger, I hadn't really thought of some of these
issues.

In fact, what you hated most about that marriage was that you were TOO
equal. David Hemingway apparently had you WORKING for a living and
you've worked for a living your whole life.

You have the wrong person. That's ok tho...I can answer your question
philosophically. I would never pair bond with a person who didnt have
his or her own life, and that includes things like life's work, a
place to live, avocations, etc. Even when I was younger, I would have
chosen accordingly.
(edit)

Your ideas of equality are so selfish and contradictory that you bash
men no matter what they do to try to please women: If they earn a ton
o' money and give it to her, no questions asked, you demand he be
discriminated against and his job given to a woman.

Mark, are you suggesting you think men should be accorded special
rights at the workplace when they give money to their wives? :-)


If he doesn't, he's a deadbeat. If he works long hours and doesn't
do enough dishes,> that's grounds for divorce.

You're being irrational, Mark; there are some no-fault divorce laws
in every US jurisdication now. Women don't need grounds.

If he doesn't, then he's a loser who> doesn't get credit for "career
sacrifice" like waitresses who give up to their jobs to become
doctor's wives and play tennis all day.

Marriage is like a general partnership, Mark. If you don't want to
support a waitress and subject yourself to paying some part of your
salary in alimony, the best you can do is either limit your
partnership with a valid prenup, or marry a woman who supports herself
in the lifestyle you'd like to become accustomed. :-) Of course, no
such woman would have you, there ...eh?

Hey, I don't doubt that there are some lucky women out there who can
change lightbulbs by getting on a ladder and having the world revolve
around them, but they are a hell of a whole lot better looking (and
positioned) than you are and even then they're now winding up along
more often than not.

Mark, I have never (even in my younger days) been a beauty pageant
person. In fact, I believe I've already told you that I'm "as ugly
as a junkyard dog". But then, I've never really traded on the
premise of beauty. That seems to have worked for me. Trading love/
sex on the basis of money or looks is shallow on both counts.

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