Re: Feminism has unleashed female sexuality but wants men to pay the price
- From: "Hyerdahl" <Hyerdahl3@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 13 May 2006 09:52:50 -0700
MCP wrote:
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In today's post-feminist society a 12 year old girl gets pregnant and
receives sympathy and support, while her 15 year old boyfriend is
prosecuted. (see HERE for Duncan's post on it). As usual the male is
punished for the consequences of the liberation of the female's erratic
sexuality.
[????? In what state is a 15 year old ajudicated an adult for the
purpose of statutory rape? I'm assuming stat rape is what you're
talking about.]
There are now no constraints on women and girl's sexual behaviour, and most
of them do not seem to have the understanding and self-control to moderate
their own behaviour for their own good.
[There are no separate standards for sexual behavior, and no reason to
limit female sexuality any more than male sexuality. Stop trying to
use women to moderate men. Women don't want the job.]
Feminists understand this, but for> ideological reasons they don't
want ANY constraints or rules placed on women and girls.
[It would be WRONG to place more rules on girls than on boys, which is
why there are now no differing standards for sexual behavior. It's
exactly the same for both sexes.]
They don't even want females to take personal responsibility.
[Girls and women don't have separate standards for responsibility or,
in more legal terms, DUTIES. We don't live in Afghanistan. :-)]
Hence their only responses to the consequences of women's licentious
behaviour is to make more and more oppressive demands on men and boys to
take total responsibility.
[The laws are the same for men and women. In my state no adult can
have sex with a minor. What is the law in your jurisdiction?]
Feminists will never show any sadness for men who> have been falsely
accused of rape.
[And they say women base their lives in emotion. :-) The laws are
not about "sadness", dweeb. The laws are rational. You're the one who
has an emotional argument.]
In fact, they mostly seem to gloat about it and say that it a good
thing as its served a greater good.
[Poor emotion-laden dweeb]
The only> response from feminists when faced with the growing numbers
of young girls
who get pregnant or are indulging in casual sex (not just standard sex, but
oral and anal sex) is to call for more 'education' on sex in schools.
[That sounds like a good plan. Are you suggesting that educaiton is a
bad thing?]
They are now even pushing for children as young as 5 to receive sex
education.
[If you had kids :-) you'd know that 5 year olds ask where babies come
from.]
There is not one shred of evidence that this will help these kids to control
themselves sexually. In fact, the evidence seems to suggest that it ends up
making them MORE curious to try out sex.
[MCP wants to play hide-the-banana. :-) All those folks in polygamous
communities agree with you, MCP....they don't want the young girls to
know where babies come from so they can keep them barefoot and
pregnant, and TRAPPED. No wonder they wanted to burn those books in
the polyg. communities, and why the Mormons support Boy Scouts but not
Girls Scouts. :-) We've got your number.]
Feminists are devoted to giving women and girls license to act however they
like when it comes to sex as they know that this, more than any other single
thing, is the ultimate acid to dissolve the family unit.
[Let's try again, bitter dweeb....girls have the same rights as boys
regarding sexual behavior. If that "dissolves the family unit" that
would mean that the family unit is based in sexism. Who wants THAT? ]
Men do not feel passionately motivated to nuture and protect a woman if
she is a ***.
[Hoboy! I have news for you dweeb breath....women are not looking for
bitter boys to either label them or to protect them out of their
rights. And, men marry women who have engaged in sex all the time. Go
out and try to find a virgin, and you'll discover it's a bit like
looking for the holy grail. :-) You don't get to keep your sexist
double standards because women said "NO". ]
Nor do they feel comfortable about bringing up her children if they are
not sure
that they are even genetically theirs - women who have a tendency to sleep
around cannot necessarily be trusted.
[No problem. Have your own children. :-) Women don't CARE a whit if
you trust them or not. Women KNOW when their children are theirs. It
would seem that YOU MEN have more of a vested interest in making sure
the woman you do trust is someone who will vest in you. IOW, if you
want a woman to bear your children, it is YOU who must prove your
trustworthiness.]
Equally, young women who have spent 10> or 20 years of their lives
sleeping around with one man after another will> not easily commit to
one man.
[ As women age they get smarter, hopefully, just like men. That
doesn't mean they WON'T commit, but rather that they're much more
choosy.]
They will not find it hard to dump him.
[Women who can support themselves need not put up with men's ***.]
And finally, unleashing women's and girl's sexuality and letting them
behave in
whatever reckless way they like usually results in them choosing to date and
sleep with the 'bad boys' rather than the good, responsible men.
[This isn't about "letting"; there is really nothing bitter boys like
you can DO about it. Women decide for themselves. And if women want
to date bad boys and later marry Mr. Wonderful, who do you think you
are to have any effect there? What magic potion do you have in your
bag of tricks? ]
This> discourages boys from becoming responsible, as they know the
girls will only
view them as boring, and ignore them.
[No one ever promised you a rose garden, MCP. Just because no women
like you or men like you, doesn't mean that love and attraction has
stopped for all men. As to being "responsible", girls and boys who
cultivate their own moral code and sense of responsibility are already
ahead of the game. Boys don't get attention just because they're
boys.]
Once feminists push men away from committing to the family, they succeed in
cutting a bond that ties many men into society, into having something to
work for, and into caring about the future of society.
[It isn't women's JOB to bring men to family. Women have their own
lives and quests and reasons for being, and they don't want to mommy
men. Women like children, but they don't like men who are children.
And if men can't find it within themselves to care about the future of
society, I feel sorry for them. You make men sound like a bunch of
pathetic creatures who need their mommies. Shame on you! The men in
my life are not like that.]
(edit)
So, lets take a brief inventory of the pros and cons of the two systems: the
patriarchal system of control of women's sexual behaviour, and of the
promotion of the nuclear family, and the matriarchal system of female sexual
licentiousness, and of the single-mother culture.
[Gee, you're not biased or anything. :-) Patriarchy means male only
rule, and it's dead. Today there are women in all walks of life and
they don't seem to be retreating. As to matriarchy, it doesnt' exist
since there is not equal representation, by sex/gender, at any level of
govt. There is no female only rule. So your analogy is between the
devil and deep blue sea. ]
Patriarchal system:
Pros: motivates boys and men to work and study hard; gives men a real
connection to both the family, society and makes them feel invested in the
future of society (because they care for their children, who will carry
THEIR name); lower taxes; less crime (fewer aimless young men); less
suicide; healthier, better cared for and loved children (because you have
more nuclear, two-parent families.) etc
[Again, women make their own choices today, and they choose not to be
men's mothers. If you can't find it within yourself to be worthy human
beings, you're a sad, and stupid lot.]
Cons: Feminist women get their knickers in a twist because they get
irritated at the idea of ANY form of constraint on women's sexual behaviour.
[There is no more constraint on women's sexual behavior than on men's,
and you've no third leg to manage that. It's YOUR KNICKERS that are in
a twist because you have no 'hand' where women's sexuality is
concerned. You're a pathetic loser.]
(Actually, this is only a 'con' from their point of view); more pressure is
put on men to marry, and there is less casual sex available to young men.
Matriarchal system:
Pros: More casual sex for those who want it.
[There is no matriarchal system. Since women haven't equal say, by
sex/gender they are not even equally represented in the system we now
have. No patriarch. No matriarchy. Sink or swim. ]
posted by Darren Blacksmith @ 11:26 AM
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