Re: Differences in Aptitude

And now this again:

http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/mathfig1.gif

You cut it obviously, but it shows that there are solid biological
reasons why women were and still are simply less capable on average.

Your 'offering' did not show that tho.

Yes, it does precisely that.

It showed a scale where women
were higher at some points and lower at others.

Higher meaning the size of the group, not capacity. The math capacity
is reflected on the horizontal axis.

That you do not know how to interpret a Gauss curve (a.k.a "normal
distribution" curve) is quite telling.

The blue curve (men) being higher on the right side of the graph than
the red curve (women) means that the group of particular math capacity,
say, at 2 standard deviations from the center, is that more numerous,
i.e. the group of men that have this particular level of capabilities
is about twice more numerous than the group of women of the same
capacity.

Since doing all the innovative and advanced stuff requires being pretty
high on this scale, this is the best explanation why the inventors and
scientists and the highest performing people in history have been men -
and that is not dependent on cultural or "discrimination" factors no
matter how hard you want to believe.

And, I didn't cut
anything. Plus, if women have been kept back (and they have) it would
make sense they would do less well.

Except if they have less innate capacity, which this massive study has
shown - I would not call sample of 73 thousand people as
"unrepresentative". And no, it has little to do with training: there
isn't much one can do to enhance one's own IQ/other cognitive abilities
in tests like these and it is not dependent on "self-esteem" either.
Training can enhance cognitive abilities a little bit for a short time,
but the effect is disappearing quite quickly. And even then it's tiny
in comparison to massive differences between men and women at high
capacity levels.

It's inborn. You have it or you don't.


No, it doesn't stand to reason, it only stands to feminist mythology.
Which is on it way out, due to factors including but not limited to
this:

Ah, but I have already PROVEN beyond doubt that women HAVE been
shortchanged in being denied equal opportunities and rights in voting,
working and educating, and even in matters of property rights and over
their own bodies.

Except that you have not proven anything, you have merely lied over and
over again - e.g. with voting the franchise has historically
shortchanged men as well as women, giving vote only to rich landowners
for example.

Given that women typically vote badly, a small bit of delay was
actually not that unreasonable.


Yes, women getting lots of useless "degrees" like liberal arts and
other bull*** that is worthless for doing real jobs in marketplace,
because women apparently lack the following skills NOT due to cultural
reasons:

:-) Sounds an awful lot like sour grapes to me.

Women are advancing,

They're not advancing. Merely the standards have been reduced, e.g. the
educational standards, which makes the impression that women are
"advancing". The requirements are watered down to make them
"inclusive", that's all. Women still fail the test of real world, as
the recent posting of Google being unable to find women engineers to
work in IT in Australia has demonstrated.

buying their own houses,

Yeah, because no sane man wants to live with a lawyer bitch:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Maureen2.shtml

Why bother living with a shrill mediocrity like Dowd really? Best to
avoid those airheads with useless degrees who _think_ they are smart.
Marrying a nurse or a secretary is much better option. Two New Year
Eve's parties back I've been introduced to this single woman, English
teacher by profession, by her female friend (who wants to get her
hooked up with some man). After having pleasant conversation for some
time she started talking shrill at me, saying literally "men suck, men
are hopeless" (I am not making this up).

OK. Good bye. Please go on living with your cats only.

This year I went to the New Year's party again to that friend, and
guess what, there she was, still single.

I am not gloating about it. I am merely pointing out the facts of life.

It takes two to tango - if women are increasingly living alone, it's
not because the women only want it that way.

keeping their own jobs, educating themselves,

....in useless liberal arts or law degrees that are getting devalued by
the day. I'm sure you wish to overlook that over and over again, but
that's not going to change no matter how much you wish.

having their own families and it's just sour grapes that you call such
"useless". :-) I find it amusing.

I find you shrill and being in wishful-thinking mode.

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