Re: Meldon-My lessons Learned

Meldon wrote:
"Rob" <robwilard@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Prarie Oyster wrote:
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Why are we allowing ourselves to be castrated? We go after the shadowy
terrorist overseas, bomb countries to the stone age while a fifth column
of liberalism and feminism based on mainly lies and media hype/hysteria
is dismantling our system here at home, right before our eyes. And we,
like the pitiful sheep we are allow ourselves to be shuffled meekly,
with heads hung, to the showers. I am disgusted.

Society's primary function is to continue. This means protecting and
nurturing the scarce resources involved in producing and raising the
next generation; women. Women choose the men they reproduce with and,
through what Jonathan Haidt calls The Social Intuitionist process,
determine social mores and mould the next generation's attitudes and
behaviours pretty effectively.

Society therefore reflects women's priorities - and always has. When
the environment requires a fierce fight for survival they choose tough,
resourceful, resilient men because their priority is protection. When
life is easier they choose more compliant, subservient men. This latter
environment suits women better because it provides them with more
control over their lives, so the tendency is to choose it whether or
not it is appropriate. The only thing that will change this is a
reversion to a tough environment. This will happen, nature's variety
ensures that, but no-one knows when. Then the issue will be whether
there is enough resilience left in the men for the society to survive.

One way out of this cycle is the development of cloning and ex-vitro
gestation. This might free men from women's control over their (and
everyone's) primary objective; reproduction. However it is unlikely
that any existing society would allow this to happen as women would try
to prevent it using their control over morality.

Real freedom for men is still a very long way off but understanding the
dynamics - understanding that it is women collectively who determine
these issues and that men are pawns in the process - might help us feel
a little less disgusted with ourselves, even if it does nothing for our
feelings of self-worth!


Sounds reasonable but I have my doubts that women are actually that powerful
or have been that powerful in the past.

Take a look at the natural history of the pea*** if you want evidence
of the power of sexual selection.

The basic premise of women selecting
brutes thereby breeding more brutes doesn't account for the baby boom
post-war years which were good times.

Grown children of the boom period seem
to be the brutes or at least there seems to be an over-abundance.

I would suggest another factor is involved.

Of course, there are many factors involved. A two paragraph summary of
the history of all human sexual relationships cannot cover every
aspect! It was intended only to give a different view of a very
complicated process - a view that very few people consider (in my
experience).

Keep in mind also, women seem to have become the brutes. Regardless of whom
they select to mate with, much goes into how they are raised.

Sure, nurture is important. Women guard their influence over it very
jealously.

Men will not be free until they have full control over their own
reproductive options. This freedom will not be achieved while women
monopolise all the scarce reproductive resources.

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