Re: Boys' education funds unveiled to reduce gender gap


Ben wrote:
> (edit)

> > Just give each child a budget. They and their parents can decide how
> > to spend it.
>
> Right after you show me how sports programs shortchange the girls in
> the classrooms.
>
> > >I don't have to Ben; how equal is too equal?
> > > >
> > > > >> Boys don't get special rights for falling behind.
> > > > >
> > > > > No one is asking for it. I want equal support for the boys.
> > > >
> > > > Then show me the support girls are getting that boys are not. :-)
> > >
> > > Are you going to tell me what you'll accept as proof?
> > >
> > I already did.
>
> Well, not really. All you're telling me is that you'll only accept
> gender feminist 'studies'--it doesn't take Karnak to figure out what
> those will say. Were you surprised by the results of studies done by
> tobacco companies?

I told you I'd accept any govt. sponsored study not proposed by a male
rights group, NOW, or the Independent Women's Forum (they aren't
independent.) etc.
>
> > > > > > It would be a little like giving men special health care rights because they exhibit
> > > > > > riskier behavior and then take tax money to correct it.
> > > > >
> > > > > A better analogy would be dollars spent on prostate cancer as opposed
> > > > > to those spent on breast cancer. Men and women are both at risk, but
> > > > > breast cancer is prioritized.
> >
> > No, women raise $$$$$ FOR IT. Where are the men? And, can't men prove
> > up need in grant writing?
>
> They probably could, if they were more inclined to do so. But given
> the amount of research that shows the prostate cancer risk for men is
> significant, why do they have to lobby for equal funding?
>
> > > > Breast cancer is sponsored thru grant money and private donations.
> > >
> > > If those organizations make more money available for breast cancer
> > > research and treatment, then there isn't as much available for prostate
> > > cancer.

True, but when you donate money you're allowed to pick a cause. :-)

> >
> > Women die younger from breast cancer than men of prostate, AND men get
> > breast cancer.
> > >
> > > > Why> > not put forth effort in those areas? I guess men are not as inspired
> > > > to do fundraisers?
> > >
> > > They may not be, but it probably has little to do with lack of
> > > inspiration.
> >
> > Sure it does. Get crackin, Ben. Before I leave in Jan. please provide
> >
> > . some source of discrimination against boys
>
> Title IX. Tell me again how many girls sports programs were
> dismantled? Also, are we drugging the girls at the same clip we're
> drugging the boys?
>
> > . some source of special rights allotted to girls
>
> I never claimed special rights, only more attention and resources.

Translation: You can't prove unequal rights so you use platitutdes?
Good to know.


Are> you seriously going to try and deny that there are more programs
for
> girls than boys? How many men's resource centers do you see on
> campuses?

Resource Centers are sponsored by clubs, volunteers, and contributions,
BEN. Sports programs are paid for with education money.
If you don't like sharing, get it out of the schools.
>
> > . some source of discrimination in granting
>
> VAWA.

No. VAWA helps victims of DV whether they are male or female.
>
> > . some reason why boys and girls should not have equal FUNDING
> > . ETC.
>
> Right after you show me how the girls are shortchanged in the
> classrooms, which is what you're claiming.

Equal funding already the moral high road here, Ben. :-) I don't have
to show that slaves were shortchanged in order to show that slavery is
wrong either.

.

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