Re: Boys' education funds unveiled to reduce gender gap


Hyerdahl wrote:
> Ben wrote:
> > Hyerdahl wrote:
> > > Viking wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cool. Way to go, AU.
> > > > Yet I find it inconceivable that the US will ever see anything like
> > > > that.
> > >
> > > In the US you cannot serve boys at the expense of girls or girls at the
> > > expense of boys. And time will tell whether the Australian law will
> > > support such as well. Here in the US
> > > we have laws that prevent favoring one sex over the other unless there
> > > is some form of discrimination. Clearly, there isn't.
> >
> > Clearly there is, Hy--disparate impact, and all that.
>
> Only if you can show DISCRIMINATION.

Disparate impact alone has been argued as indicating discrimination
when it's the feminists arguing it.

>
>
> ***, you yourself argued that numbers alone was enough to prove
> discrimination
> > at the LA Times with regards to a lack of opinion columns written by> women.
>
> That is provable discrimination tho.

How so? It's a marketplace. Men were writing columns the readers
wanted to read. Women weren't, apparently. Nor were women submitting
columns in the same numbers. Yet there you see discrimination.

> Where is the discrimination
> against boys?

Sorry, I got distracted by Bebe Neuwirth singing "All That Jazz" (I
think her version is superior to Minelli's). Where is the
discrimination against boys? Well, feel free to compare the efforts
made on girls' behalf to those made for boys. Or the overall suppoprt
given to girls as opposed to that given to boys (our high school in
this area does much more to 'encourage and support' the girls than it
does the boys, which is proving contentious at budget time)

But probably the biggest indicator of discrimination is the number of
feminists barking that there *is* no discrimination, simply because
boys performance is plummeting. When girls were perceived as getting
short shrift, there was no end of publicity and resources devoted to
the 'problem'. To the extent that this has improved things for girls,
it would stand to reason that it would do the same for boys. To deny
the boys this opportunity is clearly discriminatory.

So the next questions become: What are feminists afraid of? A level
playing field?

> Who is doing this terrible thing to boys?

Nobody is doing anything with the boys. Haven't you been paying
attention?

> With the LA
> times, we can cite the talented women who have applied as well as the
> management who won't hire them.

The LAT situation concerned free lance writers. Either they can hack
it or they can't.

> What can we show regarding
> discrimination against boys in school.

Neglect.

> Teachers still pay more
> attention to boys

No, they're not...not positive attention, anyway.

> and boys still get more sports funding, even after
> Title IX.

Yeah, and what with all those girl's sports programs being
dismantled...wait, that isn't happening.

> So, what have you?

A grip on reality. You?

>
>
> All of a sudden numbers aren't good anymore? Even when we have
> > more than numbers?
>
> Sure numbers are good, but they have to relate to some discrimination.

The inattention to and dismissal of the poor performance is the
discrimination.

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