Re: [socmen] How about if *we* propose our own moderated group?


"Andre Lieven" <dg411@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Jill (perspicacious@xxxxxxxxxx) writes:
> > On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:48:25 GMT, "Michael Snyder"
> > <msnyder@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>"Mark Ferguson" <admin@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >>> All it will take is a little effort on those you are screwing to screw
> >>> back and AUK becomes unusable until they decide to stop screwing back.
> >>> Your guns mean nothing because you just do not have enough bullets.
> >>
> >>I was going to stay out of this, but look, folks, this is a really
> >>bad idea. These kookers have nothing to do all day but spew
> >>garbage all over the net. They also have tons of experience
> >>at it. Trying to beat them at their own game is PLAYING
> >>their game, and that's a losing strategy. I just can't see them
> >>waving a white flag because they can't stand all the traffic
> >>in their own group... what do they care? Traffic to their
> >>group is a win for them.
> >
> > I agree with you on this point, Michael. Stirring up loosely hinged
> > people is never a good idea. OTOH I do not find the idea of a
> > moderated soc.men (even as a mirror site) to be a good idea either.
> > Moderation is one step away (if that) from censorship and soc.men has
> > always been a place where opinions could be freely voiced.
>
> I'm also iffy on the aspect of what may appear to be censorship, but
> if the moderation is done so that the main blacklisted posters are
> the simple trolls, such as the auk nits, and this process leaves
> the present unmoderated group soc.men just as it is, then I could
> support the RFD.

I don't think the present RFD says anything at all about
blacklisting. All it mentions (AFAIR) is prohibiting
cross-posts.

Blacklisting is a whole 'nother (and scarier) area.
No question, a lot of improvement could be made
by judicious blacklisting of certain folk who clearly
contribute nothing but trollery -- but it's a damn slippery
slope. Where do you draw the line?

> The key point is, who/how will the moderation be done ? Will it
> allow an approved post to smm, to be cross posted to sm ? Will
> it allow replies to such two group cross postings to also be
> posted to smm ?

You have neatly summed up the two main questions.




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