Re: [socmen] How about if *we* propose our own moderated group?

In article <dchifi$4d5$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, dg411@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
says...
>
> Jill (perspicacious@xxxxxxxxxx) writes:
> > On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:48:25 GMT, "Michael Snyder"
> > <msnyder@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>"Mark Ferguson" <admin@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:q8vne1du0vvmc0gubk0f15hrhd1lipapqk@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>> All it will take is a little effort on those you are screwing to screw
> >>> back and AUK becomes unusable until they decide to stop screwing back.
> >>> Your guns mean nothing because you just do not have enough bullets.
> >>
> >>I was going to stay out of this, but look, folks, this is a really
> >>bad idea. These kookers have nothing to do all day but spew
> >>garbage all over the net. They also have tons of experience
> >>at it. Trying to beat them at their own game is PLAYING
> >>their game, and that's a losing strategy. I just can't see them
> >>waving a white flag because they can't stand all the traffic
> >>in their own group... what do they care? Traffic to their
> >>group is a win for them.
> >
> > I agree with you on this point, Michael. Stirring up loosely hinged
> > people is never a good idea. OTOH I do not find the idea of a
> > moderated soc.men (even as a mirror site) to be a good idea either.
> > Moderation is one step away (if that) from censorship and soc.men has
> > always been a place where opinions could be freely voiced.
>
> I'm also iffy on the aspect of what may appear to be censorship, but
> if the moderation is done so that the main blacklisted posters are
> the simple trolls, such as the auk nits, and this process leaves
> the present unmoderated group soc.men just as it is, then I could
> support the RFD.
If the goal of moderation is to be to simply blacklist certain posters,
it would seem to be more easily done at an individual level with
killfiles. I've always assumed that the goal of moderation would be
to eliminate off-topic posts and control some of the low-information-
content name calling.
>
> The key point is, who/how will the moderation be done ? Will it
> allow an approved post to smm, to be cross posted to sm ? Will
> it allow replies to such two group cross postings to also be
> posted to smm ?
>
> I've seen a couple of newsgroups create mirror moderated groups.
> No case has seen the original unmoderated group suffer, and the
> unmoderated group has maintained it's traffic.
>
I wonder what the ratio of traffic is in the moderated and unmoderated
groups? Is there enough difference to show a significant reduction
in the signal-to-noise ratio on the moderated group?
> Andre
>
> --
> " I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
> The Man Prayer, Red Green.
>
Mark Borgerson

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