Re: if Patton had been in charge in Italy....

in 245891 20111127 062508 Alan Nordin <alan_nordin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 26, 6:46 pm, William Black <blackuse...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Even with the professional soldiers, an awful lot of them were promoted
after the days when they'd be expected to command troops in the field.

This was also true of Bradley, Grant, Sherman and Sheriadan.

I did not mean to denegrate the rank of Field Marshal in the Royal
Army, just to show that Bay Man's insistence that Patton was of lesser
rank than Montgomery was meaningless. The two were in different
armies that awarded 5-star rank in different ways and for different
reasons. Before {if we include the post civil war promotions} and
after WWII, General of the Army was a rank that was given as a reward
for past service. Only during WWII and mostly to give equal status to
British officers and then only sparingly, were actively serving US
officers promoted to General of the Army {or Admiral of the Fleet.}

The US Army was very stingy with promotions even in war time. Patton
was only promoted to a regular army 2-star in August of 1944 almost
three and a half years after he had been promoted in the more
temporary "Army of the United States". I don't know, but perhaps you
can tell us if there was a similar difference between regular army and
temporary rank in the Royal Army.

There is no such thing as a "Royal Army".
Royal Navy and Royal Air Force, yes, but the Army is just "the British Army".
Components of the Army may or may not have a Royal prefix.

http://www.army.mod.uk/structure/122.aspx

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