Re: Bismarck or Submarines

On Nov 19, 2:06 am, "Geoffrey Sinclair" <gsinclai...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<eunome...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message


The reality is that the Focke-Wulf FW 187 carried 1100 litres of
internal fuel: exactly the same as the P-38H "long range fighters" 306
US gallons. Carrying 3 x 66 Imp gallon (300L) fuel tanks for extend
range missions with extensive loitire above a protected ship should be
no problems for this aircraft.

Its fatuous to claim that a 220mph FW 200 'airliner' was as good as a
purpose designed military aircraft such as the Ju 89 that would have
been 25% faster and had a rear 20mm canon armament.

The 1937 spec of the Ju 89 is

General characteristics
Crew: Five
Length: 26.49 m (86 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 35.25 m (115 ft 8 in)
Height: 7.60 m (24 ft 11 in)
Wing area: 184 m² (1,979 ft²)
Empty weight: 17,000 kg (37,480 lb)
Loaded weight: 20,800 kg (50,266 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 27,800 kg (61,160 lb)
Powerplant: 4 × Daimler-Benz DB 600A, 560 kW (750 hp) each

Maximum speed: 386 km/h (241 mph)
Range: 2,980 km (1,862 mi)
Service ceiling: 7,000 m (22,960 ft)
Wing loading: 11.2 kg/m² (25.4 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.06 hp/lb ()

2 × 20 mm MG FF cannons
2 × 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 15 machine guns
1,600 kg (3,520 lb) bombload

By 1940 1250 hp to 1370 hp Jumo 211E should have been available thus
increasing power 66%.

The aircraft could then easily tollerate a 15% increase in empty
loaded weight, a 50% increase in fuel and an increase in drag from
extra armament.

It would likely end up a 275mph aircraft, faster than the principal RN
fighter, the Fairy Fulmar. Quite capable of forcing a tail only
attack from Hurricanes and Martlet/Wildcats and likely longer ranged
than the condor.


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