Re: Dutch Film - "Black Book"



"Andrew Clark" <aclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ha scritto nel
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"Michele" <nospammiarmel@xxxxxx> wrote

For starters, it's not an arcane 1909 international law. This also
replies to Mr. Clark's post: let's be accurate, otherwise others might
think somebody is presenting realistic-sounding but actually irrelevant,
inaccurate, or made-up snippets of laws.

I'm all for accuracy, but the last bit is puzzling. Who's doing this?

I hope nobody! But up-thread, Louis C. wrote:

"One additional detail is that the plot has one SS officer overawing
one Canadian officer with what I thought was an excellent rendition of
the Nazi German practice of quoting bits of authentic-sounding
legislation even when irrelevant or simply invented (somewhat like
what some people do here)."

You should ask him, not me, who he is thinking about; I only say that we
should all strive to avoid that kind of thing. Providing an accurate quote,
but mentioning it as taken from the wrong Convention might give the wrong
impression.



Mr. Clark correctly quotes an article, which is actually part of the body
of the Hague Conventions, but it's the IV, not the III, and the Hague
Conventions' date is 1907, not 1909 (though that may be the year of entry
into force and/or ratification for some powers).

You are quite right. Hague III is the Convention Relative to the Opening
of Hostilities and all the Hagues are 1907, not 1909 (except the 1899
ones). I knew this: only carelessness explains why I got it wrong.

But additionally, there is the Geneva Convention of 1929, relating to the
prisoners of war. That Convention quotes the quote text verbatim in
Article 45. Therefore, international law had been consistent on this.

I did consider quoting Geneva 1929, but as it only develops the principles
established by Hague, I thought Hague more apposite to the OP's query.

(snip)


Yes. I wanted to quote that too, for several reasons:
a) it is more recent than 1907, which is relevant since the other poster
seemed to be thinking that the 1907 Conventions were some old dusty booklets
forgotten on the upper shelf;
b) it shows the consistency of international law on this matter over the
years leading up to the two world wars and between them; the principle was,
therefore, neither a new-fangled novelty nor an obsolete outdated idea;
c) as you noted, it develops the concept.

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