Re: Why / Why-not 1941 Japan Vs. Russia?



On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:35:32 -0400, "bernardz" <bernardz@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:


As my quote shows the Japanese did ask the Germans to join in also they
asked the Italians as the Japanese codes further state

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From: Rome
To: Tokyo
3 December 1941
(Purple?CA)
#985

When asked by the Japanese representative if Japan declare war on the
United States and Great Britain, would Italy do likewise immediately?

Hang on. Is the above a quote from the message or your interpretation
of it ? I ask because if this really is a quote then this :

Mussolini: "Of course. She is obligated to do so under the terms of the
Tripartite Pact.

is wrong. The Tripartite pact only required the participants to go to
war if one of their number were attacked, not if they declared war on
someone else. I would have expected Mussolini to know that.

Since Germany would also be obliged to follow suit, we
would like to confer with Germany on this point."
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John

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