Re: Hungarian Jews

Andrew Clark wrote:
Indeed it would. However, according to the stats kept by RHSA, dehydration
was presumed to have killed about 3% of those shipped across Europe in the
summer of 1942 in journeys averaging about 5 days. People have remarkable
resilience.

This seems low for crowded conditions, making me wonder if there was no
water distribution (obviously insufficient, as was the norm) along the
way, but thanks for the information.

(snip)
Are there instances when trains were left too long in sidings leading
to significant numbers of people escaping?

Yes. In an episode which critically influenced future RHSA shipment policy,

(snip for space)

Thanks again, interesting indeed.

(snip again)

Eichmann in summer 1944 was given time slots in very crowded schedules,
using rolling stock which was under Reichsbahn central control. He did not
have rolling stock which he could use as he wished. Effectively, he had a
time share on the train timetable, and if he missed his slot, he likely
wouldn't get another.

That's what I meant.

My point was that he didn't need slots after July 1944, which is not an
indication that there was none left, or that he couldn't have got one.

So if the Axis rail network is bombed, there is less capacity to share
all around, Eichmann ships less Jews to Auschwitz, so he keeps asking
for slots until he has shipped everyone using the excuse that the young
and old would be useless mouths and classifying an increasing portion
of the adults as "sick and unfit for work".

I don't see why he couldn't have got some rail capacity during the rest
of the summer.

There is no reason why Hoess should guess that his camp was being
bombed because the Allies had suddenly decided to make an extra effort
on behalf of the Hungarian Jews, as opposed to his camp being bombed
because it was contributing to the German war effort.

The Allies would likely tell him. There was a lot of dialogue in 1944
through Switzerland and Sweden between the Allies and the SS about the
Jews - which is why, of course, that Himmler - with Hitler's probably
reluctant consent - decided to stop the genocide. The Nazi high command was
looking to the future.

Yes, but that's going to take time, meanwhile Hoess is safer asking for
additional manpower to build earthwalls and replace losses.

Bombing attacks would mean casualties, Hoess could just as easily
require additional manpower, both to make good his losses and to erect
earthwalls around his critical facilities.

Not at Birkenau. After February 1944, Birkenau was supposed to be a
dwindling appendix of the Auschwitz camp system, winding down and shipping
its inmates to the labour camps as quickly as possible (not very quickly, as
it happened, as the accommodation at Birkenau proved impossible to replace
at the other camps).

As I indicated in another post, the total Auschwitz population rose to
105,000 in August 1944. That's August, after the last shipment of
Hungarian Jews and the mass killings had been done.

So the capacity was there.

My memory of the last time I looked at a Birkenau plan is that there
was accomodation for 80,000 not counting planned but never completed
additions.

Also, given the precision of Allied bombers, bombs are going to fall
all over the area with some bombers attacking other targets like the IG
Farben concern near Morowicz. So Hoess will need replacement to losses
sustained in all three Auschwitz camps, and additional manpower to
build earthwalls everywhere, not just at Birkenau.

Getting resources to defend facilities - the gas
chambers - which were not even supposed to be in use and which were
scheduled for demolition in any case would not be an easy thing to do.

I understand that, but the only "resources" required are basic
excavating tools found locally (the camps were extended) and manpower
which Hoess could have plenty of from Eichmann or other sources, given
how everyone in the SS seems to have dumped "his excess Jews" on
Auschwitz where the last operating mass-killing facility was.

LC

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