Re: why did Hitler Kill jews ?
- From: "Jim-Poncin" <jphkjkhkj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:49:35 -0500
"David Thornley" <thornley@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>If Hitler had decided he actually didn't need to defeat and take over
>>France
>>and Britain, and apparently he did feel that way about Britain at least,
>>then I think he could have defused the war by propaganda campaigns and
>>actually demonstrating he was no threat to those two countries.
>
> Propaganda only works if it can be convincing, and by then Hitler was
> known to be a liar. There was no basis for negotiation with him.
> Further, I see no reason he could have demonstrated that he was not
> a threat. The German armed forces were in fact a considerable threat,
> and Hitler had shown he could built them up very fast indeed. How
> do you think he could have done that?
By what he wrote and said to his associates, his aims were basically about
adding "living room" for Germany. There was no question that he had lied,
but it was in the context of grabbing more land on mainland Europe, and in
consolidating German ethnics. Adolph wanted to form a big continental power
block, and his principle direction of interest was east. France was already
filled up.
How could he have convinced people he was no threat? By not launching
attacks on France and Britain. By widely, loudly and constantly telling
everyone in those two countries from the Prime Ministers on down to manual
laborers that he did not now consider them enemies and wanted peace. Folded
into that message would be reminders of WW1 and what ill thought out
treaties had led to in that war, and implicit threats that if attacked he
would launch war full throttle until victory, and was not making vigorous
peace moves out of fear - only good will.
Throw in some subtle stuff about how "red apes" were the real threat, and
what was really needed was an alliance, and maybe it would have worked.
Churchill and other British nationalists who were oriented toward European
balance of power politics wouldn't have been happy, but maybe they would
have been too short of support to do much.
As far as moral considerations... Well, I seem to remember a boatload of
victimized Jews traveling around western ports that nobody would take in. I
think Ultra decoding made apparent what was being done to the Jews in the
east, but it wasn't important enough ot make an issue over. Nobody bothered
doing anything to attack and disrupt death camps. Nobody issued specific
warnings to Nazi war criminals that their actions were known and they would
be held accountable.
My larger point is simply that the war wasn't fought about the nazis being
evil, it was about power politics.
JP dd9632 at hotmail.com
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