Re: why did Hitler Kill jews ?

"Cub Driver" <usenet.AT.danford.DOT.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ha scritto nel
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> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:49:03 -0500, thornley@xxxxxxxx (David Thornley)
> wrote:
>
> >Unless Hitler could end the war by conquering France and at least one
> >of Britain and the Soviet Union, Germany was doomed. Hitler had gone
> >too far, and the Allies would not agree to peace with him.
>
> But why couldn't Germany have conquered Russia?

Well, first of all because Russia wasn't a sovereign state but a federate
republic of the Soviet Union.

*Wouldn't* it have
> conquered Russia, if Japan hadn't knocked the United States off its
> pedestal and into the war?
>

No. The war in the East was largely jeopardized by January 1942, way before
any US help, and probably definitively settled by February 1943, before US
help had become a critically important factor.

> What if Japan had seized the moment, put China on hold, and gone to
> war against Russia? That would have kept the U.S. silent, and would
> have hastened Russia's defeat.
>

There are two aspects here. First there is the outcome on the battlefield,
in Eastern Siberia and South-West Asia. Then there is the US stance.

1. A Japanese attack on Vladivostok and then on into Siberia would have had
an initial success, if Stalin, as it's sensible to assume he'd do, would
have stuck to his decision to move his best Far East divisions to Moscow to
stomp the German supermen into the snow. But then? Where do the Japanese go
from there? There's several hundreds kilometers before the next significant
stop. The Soviets can withdraw, destroy the one rail line, and leave the
Japanese with an impossible logistical problem.
This would interface with the South-West Asian strategy. Do the Japanese
also abstain from striking at the oil colonies? If they do, their army in
Siberia will just bog down someplace in the vicinity of Chita, out of fuel.
But if they don't, will their Navy accept the risk of ignoring the US bases
in the Philippines while they strike the Dutch?

2. Then there is the US stance. It is unrealistic to suppose the USA stay
out of the war if Pearl Harbor doesn't happen. The US were already at war,
albeit undeclared, against Germany. If the Japanese don't attack, the war
against Germany will erupt in earnest some time in 1942 - and that is bound
to help the Soviets anyway.

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