Re: Why have a Holy Roman Empire?


"Brian M. Scott" schrieb :
Michael Kuettner wrote in
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"Weland" schrieb :

Michael Kuettner wrote:

"Weland" schrieb :

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Similarly with Reynolds' Fifes and Vassals: She wrote
the work 16 years ago, in part based on an article
written by Elizabeth Brown published 35 years ago
now. If after 35 years of intense discussion, Brown
and Reynold's essential points are no longer
controversial, it is because the reconsideration of
the evidence that those two scholars presented has
shifted our understanding of the terms and practice of
"feudalism."

Yes, Anglo-Saxon understanding.

Ok, I'll bite. Show me a continental scholar who said
the same thing as Brown before she did.

Reynolds mentions one who apparently said it simultaneously:
van de Kieft, 'De feodale maatschappij'.

What book or article. Go ahead. Full credit if 20 years
before. Scholars, ready to keep Michael honest?

Reading comprehension problems again.

She attacked the concept of "feudalism" as used in AS
historiography.

And elsewhere: Reynolds specifically mentions Ganshof,
Brunner, Le Goff, van Caenegem, and Cammarosano in the
second footnote on p. 1.

Ah, thank you. Then I'll amend my statement to "BT historiography".
I have a book edited by Le Goff here - L'UOMO MEDIEVALE from
1987. I haven't noticed the f-word in there; but I'll look again.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner




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