Re: The Great Horse Harness Debate -- Useful Links


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> David Read wrote:
>
>> But Kininger's picture shows a four -wheeled vehicle,
>
> IMO, it shows a lot of things, including potential disregard to the
> details: after all
> it is a depiction of an important historical event and not an
> illustration to 'How to
> build and drive a cart.'. :-)

Indeed. I don't know exactly what the vehicle is meant to be.

>
>> that is not strictly
>> speaking a cart in the technical sense.
>
> And what would it be 'technically'?

Technically, the difference between a cart and a wagon in English is that a
cart has two wheels and a wagon has four. However, these distinctions are
often blurred and there are also a whole host of names for different
vehicles. It is not an exact science, so "cart" is acceptable. "Wagonette"
might be better, but I daresay that there exists an even better technical
name from whichever country or region this vehicle originates.
>
> It looks like a Russian 'telega' (a peasant open ...er... cart (?) )
> with some fancy stuff attached to the sides and the seats installed.
> The horses being (to my uneducated view)
> of a too high quality for such a modest vechicle.
>
> BTW, is that stuff on a back a supply of a hay or a luggage? Rather
> difficult to tell.

Probably hay. You can see the picture better in the black and white Plate
167 in _The Anatomy of Glory: Napoleon and his Guard_ by Henry Lachouque and
Anne S. K. Brown. The biographical note on page 525 says this about the
artist:-

"Kininger, Vincenz Georg, 1767-1851. Austrian painter and aquatint engraver,
pupil of Schmutzer. Won prize Vienna Academy 1784. Took up aquatint 1786.
Designed 44 unifiorm plates engr. by Mansfeld 1796-8; 15 plates _Corps des
österr, allgemeinen Aufgebothes_ 1797; _Schema aller Uniformen der K. K.
Armee_ (130 pl. engr. by Bartsch) 1798; 3 plates of _Bürgermilitair_, 8
_Lagerszenen_ and 12 Heroic Exploits_ 1800."

>
>>But I agree that it certainly looks
>> rustic, and could clip along at a nice rate. What do you think its
>> turning
>> circle might have been, with those four equisized wheels seeming so close
>> to
>> the vehicle body?
>
> AFAIK, the telega-like vechicles were not routinely moving in circles
> (there was a
> noticeable shortage of Indians in Russia and, I presume, Western Europe
> as well :-))
> so this handicap was more or less OK. More important was simplicity of
> a construction,
> which would allow vechicle to be repaired by a village blacksmith.

It certainly seems to be of simple construction.

--

cheers,

David Read
>


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