Re: Help me find the Hebrews without the Bible

imipak wrote:
On May 20, 7:44 pm, Inabón Yunes <bori...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I came up with this technique to learn about a civilization. Since history, as told by millenia, was contaminated, I do the following. This worked with every knows civilization from Sumer, Assyria, Persia, Egypt, Nubia, Greece, to the US of A.

First thing first, DON'T READ HISTORY from the targeted civilization. Second, collect all second and third hand account that talks about them.
Third, compare it to what they wrote about themselves.

I had a little problem with the Hebrews, there is nothing said by a second source that confirms that they even existed. If we take all the well known evidence about the House of David, or Abraham or Noah, I can't proof a darned thing.

For example, Taylor's Prism, it doesn't say anything about the Hebrews repelling the Persians, on the contrary, it tells about humilliation to the king of the judeans, yet, the names have to be extracted with a lot of effort both for the King and the city of Jerusalem. It is not clear who are they talking about.

Well, there's a problem, since Taylor's Prism is written in Akkadian and is about the Assyrians and the Persians haven't come along yet, not as a major power anyway. If you're trying to read an Akkadian text as if it were Persian, that could explain your difficulty, but if you read the Akkadian text as if it were Akkadian, I know that's a shocking idea, there's no difficulty with the names or figuring out whom is being spoken of. Seems that you have an agenda and you are less interested in history than your agenda.

Help me find the Hebrews without the bible!
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Ok, I assume from this you want a mix of direct and indirect evidence.
I also assume you don't really care what the people wrote about
themselves, because if someone else says they existed, it really
doesn't matter what their comparative views were.

Direct evidence (some disagreement over this):

http://www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/meso/amarna79.html ('Apiru is
pronounced Habiru, which some believe to be the root of the word
Hebrew. This is a contentious claim, and I won't argue otherwise,
which is why I note that there is disagreement over whether this is
direct evidence. If - and only if - this is indeed the correct root,
then the name is used routinely across the region by many nations.)

Indirect evidence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezer_calendar (it's hard for a non-
existent person to write much of anything, so someone real knew Hebrew
at that time)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Shasu_of_Yahweh.JPG
(14th C BC inscription to Yahweh, in Egypt - this ain't a new kid on
the block)
.

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