Re: Greeks and Armenians have the same roots.

On Apr 18, 11:16 pm, Martin Edwards <big_mart...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Фитил и Кибрит wrote:
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From Wikipedia
The characteristically Greek representation of word-initial laryngeals
by prothetic vowels is shared by the Armenian language, which also
shares other phonological and morphological peculiarities of Greek.
The close relatedness of Armenian and Greek sheds light on the
paraphyletic nature of the Centum-Satem isogloss.
I red in some history book ( forgot the name ) that original proto
Greeks came from Armenian highlands and their route was traced by
burials of some mysterious giant people. As far as I know there is no
giants among Creeks or Armenians, anyone hear about this?
Yazon traveled back to Georgia to recover the "×ñõóüìáëëïí ÄÝñáò"
Golden Fleece.
I'd check the Hellenic version of events.
It is amazing, I can read Bulgarian and understand most of it!!!!!
Russian is very easy to understand, too. I do flick through Правда
и Новости, from time to time.
Cool. Wonder what the history is behind such similarity. I looked at
Serbian site, did not understand much, just few words.
The language reforms. In Serbia I think that is due to much the same.
As a general rule the tendency in the "Slavic" Balkan region is to
distance
oneself from Bulgarian language heritage as much as possible. This has
led to
intentional corruption in Serbian and the New Macedonian separatist
state.
Bulgaria is the first Slavic-speaking State, and the origin of the
Cyrillic
alphabet. This has always bothered some chauvinist-minded people in
the region.
Here's what I found out:
The Cyrillic alphabet along with the Old Bulgarian language, fostered
the intellectual written language for Eastern Europe, known as Church
Slavonic.
Before the eighteenth century, Church Slavonic was in wide use as a
general literary language in Russia. Although it was never spoken per
se outside church services, members of the priesthood, poets, and the
educated tended to slip its expressions into their speech. During the
seventeenth and eighteenth centuries it was gradually replaced by the
Russian language in secular literature and retained its use only in
church. Although as late as the 1760s, Lomonosov argued that Church
Slavonic was the so-called "high style" of Russian, within Russia
itself this point of view largely vanished during the nineteenth
century. Elements of its style may have survived longest in speech
among the Old Believers after the late-seventeenth century schism in
the Russian Orthodox Church.
Many words have been borrowed from Church Slavonic into Russian. While
both Russian and Church Slavonic are Slavic languages, some early
Slavic sound combinations evolved differently in each branch. As a
result, the borrowings into Russian are similar to native Russian
words, but with South Slavic variances, e.g. (the first word in each
pair is Russian, the second Church Slavonic): золото / злато (zoloto /
zlato), город / град (gorod / grad), горячий / горящий (goryačiy /
goryaščiy), рожать / рождать (rožat’ / roždat’). Since the Russian
Romantic era and the corpus of work of the great Russian authors (from
Gogol to Chekhov, Tolstoy, and Dostoevsky), the relationship between
words in these pairs has become traditional. Where the abstract
meaning hasn't commandeered the Church Slavonic word completely, the
two words are often synonyms related to one another much as Latin and
native English words were related in the nineteenth century: one is
archaic and characteristic of written high style, while the other is
common and found in speech.
In Russia, Church Slavonic is pronounced in the same way as Russian,
with some exceptions.
This is all very interesting. Church Slavonic is archaic in Bulgaria
too.
What I had in mind is the ridiculous urge of our neighbors to distance
themselves. For example in Macedonian the letter "ъ" was intentionally
discarded despite the fact that they still read it. This in the hope
Macedonian
would mutate towards not pronouncing it by force. Macedonian is a
fairly
new language it was created from a Bulgarian dialect by the Yugo
communists.
Just like Aggy could be brainwashed to think he is Cypriot and not
Greek.
But in Serbian which is much older language, reform meant borrowing
words from sources alternative to Bulgaria and Russia. Croatians are
doing
much the same but to distance themselves from the Serbs.
I think that slowly people are coming to their senses and would put
more
pressure to their politicians to stop this anti-Slavic, nationalist
lunacy.  I am very
happy that Bulgarian and Russian have stayed close as there is more
stuff
to read and it is convenient.
In pre history Serbians and Croatians were wondering Sarmatian
(Iranian) tribes who migrated from Caspian Sea area and before there
somewhere around Afghanistan to their present locations and conquered
local Slavic people and assimilated into them, Slavs being the vast
majority. At present several hundred words in their language are from
non Slavic origin.
Slavs were never united, maybe because they are so numerous and cover
large distances of land in Europe. Mongols conquered Russia for
hundreds of years, because one half helped to rule the other half.

I don't think that there are any monolithic nations, but the one thing
in common
is the Slavic character. Just like countries in the West have
rectified a
Germanic common denominator.

I think there are a LOT more resources on internet in English. I am
using Usenet to improve my knowledge of English..

This is a good place to read "English" and learn new words.:-)))

I have no doubt that Aggie was brainwashed, among other things.

I don't judge him because I don't know what he is trying to propagate.
Did the British come from Greece...hehe....why not?:-)))
Maybe the British deserve Aggy for being like him.:-)))

In fact the British occupied his island for a long time.  We did quite a
lot that was wrong, but the Greek speaking fascists (not all the Greek
speakers) intended to unite it to Greece and dispossess the Turkish
speakers.  This was the real reason for the Turkish invasion,
reprehensible though that may have been.

--
Corporate society looks after everything.  All it asks of anyone, all it
has ever asked of anyone, is that they do not interfere with management
decisions.  -From “Rollerball”

Armenians militarily conquered Karabax (with Russian weapons) which
used to be the territory of Azerbidjan (turks), claiming that
historically it was the territory of ancient Armenia. Hundreds if not
thousands died from both sides, these are highly aggressive and
ruthless people.
.

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