Re: Dionysus El Elyon and Zeus Baal Shamen


"Dom" <DRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:98212721-4a71-4ebc-9d96-9c31d8d0e3d0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Apr 29, 10:40 am, Martin Edwards <big_mart...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
SolomonW wrote:
> In article <79e2e18e-69be-4ec2-90d4-b508c66a1942@
> 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, DR...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
>> Is there any validity to the following, which was posted by
>> "Agamemnon" at:

>>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.history.ancient/msg/d99e4b6a9deec2f0?

>> =================

>> There were no such things a Orthodox Jews at the time of the
>> Maccabbees. Orthodox Judaism was invented in the middle ages. At the
>> time of the Maccabbees the Jews were polytheistic and always hade been
>> and two main factions of Jews dominated both of which wanted to
>> control the temple. One faction worshiped Baal Shamen who they
>> identified with Zeus (who was also syncretised with Zeus Belus or
>> Dushara in Arabic, the son of El) whereas another faction worshiped
>> Elyon his father who was syncretised with El (Alohi in Hebrew or Allah
>> in Arabic and referred to as Orotalt by Herodotus) who was identified
>> by the Jews with Dionysus.

>> The Jews who worshiped Dionysus El Elyon were allied with the
>> Ptolemaic Egyptians and were admitted into the mysteries and branded
>> with the Ivy Leaf symbol of Dionysus. Those that supported the claim
>> of Zeus Baal Shamen to the temple worshiped were allied with the
>> Seleucids. The temple was in fact original the temple of Elyon and
>> Judas Maccabbee led the Jews that worshiped Dionysus to retake if from
>> those that wanted to worship Baal Shamen there instead. From the First
>> Book of Maccabbees we know that when Judas finally capture the temple
>> he celebrated by worshiping Elyon by waving wands covered with ivy,
>> which of course was the Thyrsus as carried by Dionysus and his
>> followers.

> Very little.

> In June 1986 archaeologists of Tel Aviv University announced discovery
> of two small silver scolls or amulets. These two silver scrolls were
> found in 1979 deep inside a burial cave at a site known as Ketef Hinnom,
> west of the old city of Jerusalem. They were hidden at the back of the
> tomb embedded in pottery fashioned as early as the seventh century BC.
> Seven years later the fragile silver scrolls were opened and their texts
> deciphered. The silver scrolls contain an excerpt from Numbers 6:24-26,
> also known as the Priestly Benediction. In English the verses read: > =3FThe
> LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you, And
> be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you, And give
> you peace.=3F On the scrolls we find the texts:

> Amulet 1: concluding benediction (lines 14=3F19):

> =3F[=3F] May Yahweh bless you [and] keep you. May Yahweh cause his face > to
> shine [on you] =3F].=3F

> Amulet 2: benediction (lines 5=3F12):

> =3F[=3F] May Yahweh bless you and keep you. May Yahweh cause his face to
> shine [on] you and give you peace [=3F].=3F

> The location of the find of the silver scrolls and analysis of the
> Hebrew on the scrolls confirm a date close to 600 BCE, perhaps earlier > =3F
> long before the capture of Jerusalem and the Babylonian exile.

> They were Monothesist back in the 600 BCE long before these events that
> Agamemnon wrote above.

What a load of ***. All it shows is that Yahweh was one of their gods.
Small sculptures of more recent dates, depicting Yahweh and his
consort Asherah have also been found.

<<<Are images of Yahweh and Asherah available on-line?>>>

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2938/mindei.html



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