Re: Dionysus El Elyon and Zeus Baal Shamen

In article <79e2e18e-69be-4ec2-90d4-b508c66a1942@
2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, DRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
Is there any validity to the following, which was posted by
"Agamemnon" at:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.history.ancient/msg/d99e4b6a9deec2f0?

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There were no such things a Orthodox Jews at the time of the
Maccabbees. Orthodox Judaism was invented in the middle ages. At the
time of the Maccabbees the Jews were polytheistic and always hade been
and two main factions of Jews dominated both of which wanted to
control the temple. One faction worshiped Baal Shamen who they
identified with Zeus (who was also syncretised with Zeus Belus or
Dushara in Arabic, the son of El) whereas another faction worshiped
Elyon his father who was syncretised with El (Alohi in Hebrew or Allah
in Arabic and referred to as Orotalt by Herodotus) who was identified
by the Jews with Dionysus.

The Jews who worshiped Dionysus El Elyon were allied with the
Ptolemaic Egyptians and were admitted into the mysteries and branded
with the Ivy Leaf symbol of Dionysus. Those that supported the claim
of Zeus Baal Shamen to the temple worshiped were allied with the
Seleucids. The temple was in fact original the temple of Elyon and
Judas Maccabbee led the Jews that worshiped Dionysus to retake if from
those that wanted to worship Baal Shamen there instead. From the First
Book of Maccabbees we know that when Judas finally capture the temple
he celebrated by worshiping Elyon by waving wands covered with ivy,
which of course was the Thyrsus as carried by Dionysus and his
followers.


Very little.

In June 1986 archaeologists of Tel Aviv University announced discovery
of two small silver scolls or amulets. These two silver scrolls were
found in 1979 deep inside a burial cave at a site known as Ketef Hinnom,
west of the old city of Jerusalem. They were hidden at the back of the
tomb embedded in pottery fashioned as early as the seventh century BC.
Seven years later the fragile silver scrolls were opened and their texts
deciphered. The silver scrolls contain an excerpt from Numbers 6:24-26,
also known as the Priestly Benediction. In English the verses read: =3FThe
LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you, And
be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you, And give
you peace.=3F On the scrolls we find the texts:

Amulet 1: concluding benediction (lines 14=3F19):

=3F[=3F] May Yahweh bless you [and] keep you. May Yahweh cause his face to
shine [on you] =3F].=3F

Amulet 2: benediction (lines 5=3F12):

=3F[=3F] May Yahweh bless you and keep you. May Yahweh cause his face to
shine [on] you and give you peace [=3F].=3F

The location of the find of the silver scrolls and analysis of the
Hebrew on the scrolls confirm a date close to 600 BCE, perhaps earlier =3F
long before the capture of Jerusalem and the Babylonian exile.

They were Monothesist back in the 600 BCE long before these events that
Agamemnon wrote above.
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