Re: Sumerian Ishtar of the Black Heads to Venus and question of Califia


RUBBISH. That is a fantasy story not history or science. It's something
you've made up.

And your masturbation theory is something that Dawkins made up.
And since you are a sheeple, you can't make up a theory on your own.
You just follow blindly and regurgitate words from those who you penis
worship.

There is NOT ONE historical account that says birth was
considered anything of the kind.

Course not. It's just common sense.

In fact the historical idea of how children
were created was NOT by the woman but by the man who produced a homunculus
which was incubated by the woman. But of course you are totally important so
you've never produced and sperm to realise that. No sperm, no babies

You keep saying historical, when we're talking pre-historic.
Do you know what the prefix "pre" means?



More ridiculous unsubstantiated speculation. The people that made these
images lived their lives by migrating from place to place when they'd picked
all the berries and hunted all the animals and the sheep and goats if they
had any had consumed all the grass. Fertility goddess BULL***.

And when they came back through the area the next year, they didn't
notice that the grass had grown back, even though they could remember
where they'd hidden water gourds years before?



More of the same BULL***. Ancient man did not think of the earth in that
way and NOT ONE historical test shows them doing so. Stop making *** up
based on the discredited theories of Frazer and Graves.

Ok so you haven't read the Upanishads or the Eddas. Guess that makes
you a fool.



What is this maybe? This is a HISTORY newsgroup not a fantasy fiction
newsgroup.

But we happen to be talking about prehistory.
Your masturbation theory is the biggest pile of unsubstantiated maybes
I have ever read.
Show me some fossilized sperm on a venus figurine.



There is no such thing as magic and not one ancient historical
text says that any such thing existed. The ritual practice in ancient
mystery religion have nothing whatsoever to do with magic. They are about
re-enactment of evil deeds carried out be the Gods. The word mystery does
not come from magic, it comes from mysos meaning sin. The magic you are
referring to was the degeneration of science in the middle ages and thus has
nothing to do with primitive societies but advance ones in the state of
decay. The word itself in ancient times referred to cooking and the
selection of herbs for either cooking or poisoning, not to anything you
would find in Harry Potter.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. I guess they dropped
ochre in the graves because they thought it was pretty?



Or maybe they were a form of currency, and they represented the value
of a wife.

And your historical evidence for this is what? What measures prevented it's
forgery?

And your historical evidence for porn is what?
Shells have been used as currency in cultures.


Or maybe if you put it in your hut, your wife would get pregnant,
invoking sympathetic magic.

BULL***. Your wife got pregnant if you fucked her. If she didn't then you
would throw her out, give her family back her dowry and find another wife.
Read the Koran.

The Koran is only 2000 years old.


Or maybe....1 million other ideas as probable as porn.

No.

Yes. Cough up some evidence and stop regurgitating Dawkins, sheeple.









Eusebius would have known of hunter gatherers who were still in Europe
and
Africa and he would have known that they had no Gods whatsoever. Religion
is
something which was invented in Mesopotamia in about 3500 BC at the same
time as writing and was nothing more than ancestor worship based on
recorded
history.

So someone living at 3500 BC new everything that happened in europe
between 3500 BC and 20,000 BC?
That's novel.
Ever thought that the hunter-gatherers living at 3500 BC may not have
had gods, but the ones before them did? Remember, the Cro-Magons died
out around 10,000 BC, and the people who came after them were far less
complex.

There were no such thing as God until they were invented at the same time as
writing. The two go hand in hand. Non literate societies do not worship any
Gods except the forces of nature and the heavenly bodies so as to predict
the seasons. That was obvious to Eusebius and the writers he quotes from
observation. Gods are an invention of civilisation through the deification
of kings and the preservation of the historical deeds they performed and
nothing more. After more people became literate they were also able to make
their own family members into house Gods, until their memory lapsed through
inability to preserve the texts of their lives. The state Gods had grater
resources to preserve their memories.



This religion was then exported to their neighbours who then
exported it to their neighbours until it reached Europe, China and even
the
Americas. Left alone man had no reason whatsoever to believe in any kind
of
God. Christ, Adonis, Dionysus, Baal-Hadad and Osiris are all rehashes of
the
story of the resurrection of Tammuz transposed onto other historical
figures.

Yeah I've heard that incredibly long stretch before, and found it
utterly unconvincing.

You are a fool then.



Monkeys don't believe in Gods and neither do Cats and Dogs and neither do
isolated communities of Humans unless they have a religion imposed on
them
as part of one huge con, and the for proof of that you can read Dawkins.

Hmmm...wonder why the aborigines had gods.

They didn't. The aboriginal Gods were invented by the Europeans who met them
out of the Aboriginals immediate ancestors at the time they made first
contact.

Wonder why the Bushmen have
gods.

They originally followed the religion of the Greeks and Egyptians which
eventually degenerated.

Wonder why the isolated polynesians had gods. Wonder why the

No they didn't. The Europeans they met invented them.

neanderthals buried dead ceremoniously with tools for the afterlife.

They copied Homo Sapiens which did this in order to preserve the memory of
their culture so that future generation would know they existed.

What makes you differentiate worshipping gods from ancestor worship?
They can be seen as the same thing, depending on your religion and
your perspective.

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