Re: Do we have non Eusebian evidence that there were Christian Churches prior to 312?


"mountain man" <hobbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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> By non Eusebian evidence I exclude anything capable
> of crossing the imperial desk of the Caesarean. I look
> at the job (of Eusebius of Caesara) as an ancient IT
> manager, CEO Roman Imperial Library and thus by
> default after 324, CEO Alexandian library.

Yes we do thanks to for example Arius and the debate he caused, the Goths
and Ablabius as other examples, we most certainly know about Christian
churches before 324. We do have a lot of Sophists who were to put their
written reactions in short words - more or less angry, mad, frustrated,
annoyed, etc etc on Ablabius. the later I can understand since it was he
who followed Constantine the Great from Arles, then as a priest later having
same position as Tacitus had in his days and as Cassiodorus came to later
on.

For information on Arius you can start by looking at:
http://www.bartleby.com/65/ar/Arius.html

Examples on Christian Churches built in England between 167 AD to 409 AD:
Hinton St Mary (Dorset), Lullingstone (Kent) och St Martin´s in Canterbury

In 314 AD three English Bishops attended the Church-meeting in Arles. They
most certainly had churches under their See. Some information you can find
in Nennius/Ninjan's work. One who at that time were active in a chapel of
Constantine the Greats since 310 AD was Ablabius, half Goth according to
some contemporary sources. Anyhow Ablabius made the Sophists write more than
one line because he was the one according to for example Eunapius who made
the Romans forget the old Gods. Eunapius doesn't exactly hold his words
within...
Eunapius you can read about on
http://www.bartleby.com/65/eu/Eunapius.html
Eunapius, Lives of the Sophists,ed London 1921page 463 ff
Eunapius Fragmenta book 1,9.2(Vit. soph. 6,3,8); book 3, 20, 2

There are many more.

Inger E


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