Re: The original non Indo-European languages of Europe

Raktizer Omheit wrote:
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"nandodick" <nandodick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1129396746.067640.54330@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Languages change in a number of ways: words are replaced by entirely
different words, a word shifts in meaning, one grammatical construction
is replaced by another. Much language change is systematic: a certain
sound, in a certain context, changes into another sound in every word
in which it occurs in that context. This is known as sound change, and
the rules that describe the changes are known as sound laws. For
example, Latin /k/ became French /sh/ (spelled <ch>) before the vowel
/a/. Thus, Latin castellum became French chateau, Latin campus became
French champs, Latin captivus became French chetif and so forth.
Languages that have undergone the same sound changes are likely to have
been a single language at the point at which they underwent it.
Interactions among sound changes can tell us the order in which they
occurred.

Although sound change is the main way in which words change over time,
it is also possible for a word to be replaced by an entirely different
word. For example, the Proto-Indo-European word for "dog" was something
like *kuon. (The star indicates that this is a hypothetical form.) We
reconstruct this form from attested (actually recorded) forms like
Greek kuon, Sanskrit shvan, and German hund by asking what proto-form
would yield the attested forms after undergoing the sound changes
observed in the various languages, and also taking into account changes
in word-formation. The direct descendant of this word in English is
hound. But at some point the common Germanic word for "dog" took on a
more specialized meaning and was replaced, as the general term, by dog,
a word whose origin we do not know.

more importantly a language or a whole family of languges it`s
constructed not only by lexicon, but also by grammar and syntax, so
it`s more than just alignate cognetes.

i heard a thousand times the bask-ligur-berber-georgian thesis and it`s
highly controversial, there are very few records of basque previous
tothe 12th century ( i think the official figuere it`s zero), and
Euskera has been contaminated for thousands of years of indo-european
influences.

so despite Dog or Hound it`s has a PIE root, your point it`s valid you
are entitled to believe whatever you want, just don`t be misinforming,
and one more thing the spanish word for DOG=PERRO, it hasn`t a PIE root


DNA tests on prehistoric Iberian and Bsque skeletons has revealed close genetic similarities with those Berber tribes in North Africa who have the least amount of Arabic and Black African ancestry, and neither Basque, Iberian, and Berber are Indo-European languages. 

Utter rubbish.

DNA tests show the exact opposite. The Basques are the most homogenous population in Spain and France and their DNA linage M173 which occurs in 90% of the population has nothing to do with the Berbers who are M35. The Berbers came to Spain in Islamic times and their impact on the language is therefore irrelevant. Their DNA linage only appears in Andalusia and only in traces of 10% or less. It is virtually non existent among the Basques..

And yet other DNA tests show otherwise, but that is not part of your agenda now, Agamemnon. Besides, the watery distance across the Strait of Gibraltar is not all that great, in fact it is smaller than the Strait of Dover, and the Berbers invaded Spain twice, once in prehistoric times, before the arrival of the Indo-European speaking Celts, Greeks, Romans, and Visigoths, and again in historical times, i.e. in written, recorded history. Iberian, Basque, and Berber are definitely not Indo-European speaking languages, and prehistoric skeletons of Iberians and Basques share close genetic similarities with some of the North African Berber tribes. 

'SCUSE ME <waves>

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If reposting, why?
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