Re: The Athenian Democracy Illusion


"Matt Giwer" <jull43@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Raktizer Omheit wrote:
>> "Matt Giwer" <jull43@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>
>>>Raktizer Omheit wrote:
>>>
>>>>The ancient Athenian democracy in practise was not that democractic for
>>>>the poorer classes of the ancient Athenian adult male citizen
>>>>population. The ancient Athenian assembly, known as the ecclesia, met on
>>>>average about forty days per year.
>>>
>>>...
>>>
>>>I did not notice anything new in the details.
>>>
>>>But your opinion appears to be steam engines are a myth because the first
>>>one was not like modern ones. That does not compute.
>>>
>>>The US had only male citizens voting. Black men voted before white women.
>>>
>>>And of course the primary issue is Athens had a republic and the US was
>>>created as a republic not a democracy.
>>>
>>>FWIW
>>>There is a modest chance some of the Germanic tribes predated Athens as
>>>they were found doing it and foreign contact should have lead them away
>>>from the practice rather than inventing it. So we have no idea when the
>>>custom actually started. And women appeared to have a say in the process.
>>>As they left no records that far back there is no way we can ever know.
>>>
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>>> a11
>
>> Matt Giwer, somehow I get the feeling you did not read all of my first
>> post which began this thread, as witnessed by your drug-induced,
>> rambling, irrelevant stream-of-consciousness.
>
> Is this the best you can respond?
>
> I don't think you could do any better against an equal, Matt Giwer, let
> alone someone who has a slight advantage over you, but you do not need me
> to tell you this, because you know it, and I know it.
>
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