Re: The Athenian Democracy Illusion

Matt Giwer wrote: 
Raktizer Omheit wrote:

The ancient Athenian democracy in practise was not that democractic for the poorer classes of the ancient Athenian adult male citizen population. The ancient Athenian assembly, known as the ecclesia, met on average about forty days per year. 


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    I did not notice anything new in the details.

But your opinion appears to be steam engines are a myth because the first one was not like modern ones. That does not compute.

The US had only male citizens voting. Black men voted before white women.

And of course the primary issue is Athens had a republic and the US was created as a republic not a democracy.

Nice point. The House is democratic, but the Senate and the Presidency were created specifically to prevent democracy, As Dubya found out to his advantage.

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