Re: The Athenian Democracy Illusion




"Matt Giwer" <jull43@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Raktizer Omheit wrote:
>> The ancient Athenian democracy in practise was not that democractic for
>> the poorer classes of the ancient Athenian adult male citizen population.
>> The ancient Athenian assembly, known as the ecclesia, met on average
>> about forty days per year.
>
> ...
>
> I did not notice anything new in the details.
>
> But your opinion appears to be steam engines are a myth because the first
> one was not like modern ones. That does not compute.
>
> The US had only male citizens voting. Black men voted before white women.
>
> And of course the primary issue is Athens had a republic and the US was
> created as a republic not a democracy.
>
> FWIW
> There is a modest chance some of the Germanic tribes predated Athens as
> they were found doing it and foreign contact should have lead them away
> from the practice rather than inventing it. So we have no idea when the
> custom actually started. And women appeared to have a say in the process.
> As they left no records that far back there is no way we can ever know.
>
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> a11
Matt Giwer, somehow I get the feeling you did not read all of my first post
which began this thread, as witnessed by your drug-induced, rambling,
irrelevant stream-of-consciousness.


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