Top-posting an afterthought to my earlier post to Marian:
If you want to read about this megalomanic view of Swedish history in
English, there are serious studies by Kurt Johannesson, The Renaissance of
the Goths in Sixteenth-Century Sweden, and Gunnar Eriksson, The Atlantic
Vision. You might find more material there for your study of Gothic
confusion.
Alan
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Marian,
As Erik hinted earlier, I'm not sure this is the right forum for you.
What you're doing here is advanced philological argument, way beyond the
understanding of whoever you are trying to convince. This level of
scholarship is suited perhaps to a mailing list, whereas newsgroups are
rather less serious places designed more for exchange of information and
informal debate or chat. And of course, as you must have noticed, every
newsgroup has a couple of resident cranks with their own agendas. Here we
have Agamemnon with his Greek chauvinism (now claiming that Gothic derives
from Greek!) and Inger with her Swedish equivalent, equating Goths with
Getae and deriving them all from her home ground in Götaland.
Maybe you aren't aware of the historical background to this. In the early
16th century the Swedes felt the need for a glorious history to match what
Saxo had written for Denmark and what the Old Norse sagas said about the
kings of Norway. Archbishop Johannes Magnus filled this gap with Historia
de
omnibus gothorum sveonumque regibus, telling how the glorious Goths left
Sweden to conquer the world. Things got worse when Olof Rudbeck wrote his
Atlantica in the late 17th century, "proving" that Magog, ancestor of the
Goths, came to Sweden just after the flood and that Sweden was the
magnificent kingdom of Atlantis.
As you can see, the tradition of Swedish Gothic megalomania still
survives.
As for Inger's lost books of Diodorus, she will never give you the details
you want, simply because they don't exist. She used to claim that the lost
books of Ablabius still existed. For a good account of that, plus an
accurate summary of some typical behaviour, see
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.history.medieval/msg/c150fb711162a059
That was written three years ago. You'll see that history repeats itself.
Alan
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