Re: Richard Shireburne's will on Jan. 3, 1436 and "Magna Carta Ancestry"

On Apr 17, 9:49 am, Adrienne Boaz <adrienne_b...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear mailing list,
This was also cross-posted on the message board:
"Magna Carta Ancestry" stated that  Richard Shireburne's (who married Alice
Hamerton) will was dated January  3, 1436. That was from page 826 in the book.
The other book I'm  looking at, "A History of the Family of Sherborn", gives a
copy of Richard  Shireburn's will (the one who married Agnes Harington, so the
elder  Richard), and not only is it dated January 3, 1436, but it also mentions  
his wife, Agnes! This information is from page 14 of that book, which  is
available online on Google Books. That will starts out like this:
"In Dei nomine, Amen. Ye thirde day of ye moneth of Januer in ye yere of ourre
Lorde Gode MCCCCXXXVI...."
and then later in the will says this:
"...I gyf and I be witt to Agnes my wyffe..."
So the Richard who dated his will on January 3, 1436 was married to Agnes, NOT
Alice.

Why did it say in "Magna Carta Ancestry" that the Richard who married Alice left
a will on January 3, 1436?
 - Adrienne

Charles Bailie Sherborn's book and MCA both appear to have used
Whitaker's History of Whalley as their source for the two Richards
(father and son), but Sherborn concludes (pp. 16-7) that Whitaker has
confused some of the details for the two Richards and identified the
will of the father as that of the son. Sherborn's discussion of the
IPM of the elder Richard (for which he cites a source other than
Whitaker) supports that conclusion, as it mentions properties held by
the elder Richard which were never held by the younger Richard, who
died shortly before him. The wills of the elder Richard and his wife
Agnes can be seen in Testamenta Eboracensia 2:75-6 and 2:105-6
(although not in the copy available on Google Books which has mucked
up the scanning of at least the pages containing Richard's will). The
editor of Test. Ebor. makes it clear that the will in question, dated
3 Jan 1436, is that of the elder Richard whose wife was named Agnes.
The MCA account of the two Richards does not cite the Sherborn book
and thus misses Sherborn's conclusions regarding Whitaker's confusion
of the two Richards.
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