Re: The Coningsby family
In a message dated 3/9/2011 11:55:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rjc.wood@xxxxxxxxx writes:
3) The lordships of Tamworth (Warwickshire), Winteringham and
Coningsby were held by Robert de Marmion in 1217 and before that held
by Robert de Marmion in 1115 – 1118, together with Scrivelsby,
Winteringham and Willingham all in Lincolnshire. They continued to
hold the estates through to 1180, they therefore owned the estates of
Coningsby continuously from 1115 to at least l224 (37); how then could
our Roger Coningsby and his son John also hold them at the same time?
You have some odd error here.
Firstly what is your source which states pointedly that Tamworth was "held"
by Robert de Marmion *in* 1217 ?
The Robert de Marmion who was active in 1115 is not the prior holder.
Roger de Marmion of Tamworth and other places died in 1129 or thereabouts.
Robert, his son, was his heir and was living and an adult in 8 Stephen. He was
slain at the Battle of Conventry.
I think your problem here, is that you're not citing your sources. If you
did, we could point out to you where the errors are exactly.
W
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