Re: Alexander II of Scots "an ignored ancestor ? "

Some sources*, have Ermengarde, wife of William de Soules as a
Durward. Their son, Nicholas was one of the contenders. Lots of
descendants on the Soules side, if that's the case (Lovel, Seymour,
Zouche, Carew, Hungerford, Courtenay, etc.).The Edinburgh History of
Scotland does not mention names but does note that he was survived by
3 daughters.

The Dictionary of National Biography, however, says that Nicholas'
claim was through Ermengarde who was the younger sister of Margery,
not her daughter.

these are prob.not the best, just the first ones that came up
*Scotland's historic heraldry
*A contribution to the history, biography and genealogy of the
families named Sole, Solly, Soule, Sowle, Soulis)

mk

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Ronald Di Iorio <medgen2249@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong, but the only way that Alexander II leaves all these descendants is through Anne Durward, wife of William de Ferrers, who was a Durward and not a Despenser.

Ron


----- Original Message -----

I think I am not the only one who bypassed
Alexander II, king of Scots
(1198-1249) simply because his descendants died out
in 1290 with his great
grand child Margaret of Norway.

But not so. Thanks to the work of John Ravilious,
Andrew MacEwen and
Douglas Richardson a totally different picture has
emerged. The improved
genealogy of Alexander II's descendants is now in
my own system and will
be shown of Genealogics with the next update.

Alexander II, king of Scots (first the bad news)
is an ancestor of the
following Regicides:
John Alured - John Blakiston - Sir John Bourchier
- Sir John Danvers -
George Fleetwood - Thomas Grey, lord Grey of Groby
- Sir Richard
Ingoldsby

Alexander II, king of Scots is an ancestor of the
following USA
Presidents
Thomas Jefferson - James Madison - Zachary Taylor
- Stephen Grover
Cleveland - William Howard Taft - Calvin Coolidge
- Franklin Delano
Roosevelt - George Herbert Bush and George Walker
Bush

Alexander II, king of Scots is an ancestor of the
following Gateway
Ancestors :
Robert Abell III - John Alston - Alicia Arnold -
Hon. Anne Arundell -
William Asfordby - Anne Batt - Jane Batt - Anne
Baynton - Sir Marmaduke
Beckwith 3rd Bt - Richard Bellingham - Norborne
Berkeley baron
Botetourt - Sir William Berkeley - William Bladen
- George Blakiston -
Nathaniel Blakiston - Nehemiah Blakiston -
Elizabeth Bosvile - Thomas
Bradley - Col. Giles Brent - Margaret Brent -
Charles Calvert lord
Baltimore - Kenelm Cheseldyne - Grace Chetwode -
Capt Jeremy Clarke -
St.Leger Codd - John Coke - Eyre Coote Croker -
Jane Deighton - Katherine
Deighton - Robert Deering - Col. Edward Digges -
Francis Eyre - Thomas
6th Lord Fairfax - William Fairfax - William
Farrar - Susan Felton -
Henrietta Fielding - John Fisher - Capt Henry
Fleete - Rev. Edward
Foliot - Elizabeth Hagburne - Catherine Haselrige
- Edward Hutchinson -
Edward Hyde - Mary Jephson - John Jones - Mary
Launce - Thomas Lechmere -
Col Thomas Ligon - Catherine Maria Long - Anne
Mansfield - Elizabeth
Mansfield !
- John Mansfield - Anne Marbury - Catherine
Marbury -  Anne Mauleverer -
Hon. Robert Monckton - Lord Charles Greville
Montagu - John Nelson -
Margaret Nelson - Capt. Philip Nelson - Thomas
Nelson - Katherine
Neville - Hester Newton - Henry Norwood - Edward
Nott - Samuel Ogle - Sir
Danvers Osborn 3rd Bt - Rev. John Oxenbridge -
Philadelphia Pelham - Hon.
George Percy - Henry Randolph - Col. William
Randolph - Charles Rodes -
Thomas Rudyard - Major Richard Saltonstall - Rev.
William Skepper - Diana
Skipwith - Sir Grey Skipwith - Maria Joanna
Somerset - Constant
Southworth - Katherine St. Leger - John Stockman -
William 'the
Immigrant' Strother - Richard Tilghman - William
Tryon - Sir Henry Vane -
Leighton Wilson - Thomas Wingfield - Edward Wyatt
- Sir Francis Wyatt -
Rev. Hawte Wyatt - Amt Wyllys

Alexander II is an ancestor of the following
actors
Fat Wray - Jake Gyllenhaal - Maggie Gyllenhaal -
Rupert Everett - Rachel
Ward - Alexander Armstrong - Timothy Bentinck -
Hugh Grant - Marlon
Brando - Gloria Grahame - Billie Burke - Randolph
Scott

Alexander II is an ancestor of many of the British
Royals, including
Queen Elizabeth II - Kate Middleton - Lady Diana
Spencer - Sarah
Ferguson - Mark Phillips - Camilla Shand


I have made a file of 11 generations (72 pages)
with his descendants,
reaching the 16th century, no doubt in need of
additions and corrections,
but if anyone is interested I will gladly send
it.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

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