Re: Avicia, wife of William de Beauchamp (d. 1170)

Saturday, 28 August, 2010


Dear Stephen,

Thanks for your kind words, and the followup query. Given that
Cawley's version appears closer to the correct descent, and provides
some evidence/documentation re: the pedigree put forward, I will
interpolate my observations below.


You wrote:


On Aug 28, 5:55 pm, The Hoorn <sbarnho...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
John:  First, great post! Second, have you uncovered any evidence
which explicitly states Emmeline de Abitot, daughter of Urso de
Abitot, wife of Walter de Beauchamp?

Third, there seems to be conflicting information on the descendents of
this family.  For example, if you look athttp://www.geneajourney.com/bchmp1.html

Sir Walter de Beauchamp, Lord Beauchamp, b abt 1152, Elmley Castle,
Worcestershire, England, d 1235. He md Bertha de Braose [b] abt 1174,
Bramber, Sussex, England, daughter of William de Braose, Sheriff of
Herefordshire, and Bertha of Hereford.
Children of Walter de Beauchamp and Bertha de Braose were:

    * Walcheline de Beauchamp b abt 1176.
    * James de Beauchamp b abt 1180, Elmley, Worcestershire, England.

Walcheline de Beauchamp b abt 1176, Elmley, Worcestershire, England, d
14 Apr 1236. He md Joane de Mortimer 1212, daughter of Sir Roger de
Mortimer, Lord of Wigmore, and Isabel de Ferrieres.
Child of Walcheline de Beauchamp and Joane de Mortimer was:

Sir William de Beauchamp, Lord of Elmley Castle, b 1215, Elmley
Castle, Worcestershire, England, d 5 Jun 1268, Worcestershire,
England. He md Isabel Mauduit abt 1240, Worcestershire, England,
daughter of Sir William Mauduit, Chamberlain of the Exchequer, and
Alice de Newburgh.

However, if you look at Charles Cawley's medieval lands site he has
the following:

WALTER de Beauchamp of Elmley Castle, Gloucestershire (-[1130/33]).
The parentage of Walter de Beauchamp has not been confirmed in any of
the primary sources which have been consulted during the preparation
of the present document.  From a chronological point of view, he could
have been the son of Hugh de Beauchamp (see Part A).  However, it is
not known whether Hugh was the only member of the Beauchamp family who
came to England from Normandy.  Henry I King of England granted a wolf-
hunting licence in his forest in Worcestershire to "Waltero de Bello
Campo" by charter dated to [1106/13][336].  "…Walto de Bello Campo…"
subscribed the charter date [3/10] Jun 1123 under which Henry I King
of England granted the lands of "Edrici fil Chetelli" to "Walto de
Gloec"[337].  The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Walto de Belcapo" in
Wiltshire (two entries) and in Gloucestershire[338].  m [EMELINE],
daughter of URSE de Abîtot & his wife ---.  Round states that the wife
of Walter de Beauchamp was the daughter of Urse de Abitot but he does
not cite the corresponding primary source which confirms that this is
correct[339].  

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I have as yet found no explicit evidence that Em(m)eline was the
daughter of Urse d'Abitot. This is of course the 'received' descent
[cf. K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, DP 439; Sanders, English Baronies, pp. 75-6
and note 10].

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Walter & his wife had two children:

a)         WILLIAM de Beauchamp (-1170, bur Worcester).  Henry I King
of England confirmed the inheritance by "Willelmo filio Walteri de
Bello Campo, dispensario meo" of "terram totam patris sui" by charter
dated to [1130/33][340].  “…Waltero de Clifford…Osberto filio Hugonis,
Willielmo de Bealchamp…” witnessed the undated charter, dated to
[1155], which records the donation by “Rogerus comes Herefordiæ” to
Brecknock priory[341].  The 1156 Pipe Roll records "Wills. de
Bellocampo" at the head of the return for Worcestershire, and the 1156
and 1157 Pipe Rolls "Wills de Bello Capo" at Trentham in Staffordshire
with revenue of ₤30[342].  The Annals of Tewkesbury record that
“Willelmus de Bello Campo” was captured by “Radulpho de Mandeville” in
1151[343].  Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the
Exchequer, in 1166, name "Willelmus de Bello Campo vii milites…
Walterus de Bello Campo, dimidium militum" among those providing
military service for Westminster abbey in Worcestershire, and also
record the knight fee-holders under "Willelmus de Bello Campo" in
Worcestershire[344].  The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1170
of “Willelmus de Bello Campo” and his burial “ad ostium capituli
Wigorniæ”[345].  m BERTHA de Briouse, daughter of WILLIAM de Briouse &
his wife Berthe of Hereford.  The primary source which confirms her
parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.


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The placement of Bertha de Braose/Breuse as a daughter of William
de Braose and Bertha of Hereford is in error. The evidence for Bertha
(daughter of William, son of this William de Braose, and his wife Maud
de St. Valery) being the wife of the 'next' William de Beauchamp
consists of two items:

1. The charter cited in my earlier post, giving Avicia (surname
unknown) as the wife of this William _and_ the mother of his son
William de Beauchamp; and

2. On 29 Sept 2002, Chris Phillips provided the following IPM
from 1305 concerning lands in Tetbury, Gloucestershire which had been
granted previously by William de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick (d. 1298):

"no 1971. Writ to Walter de Gloucestre, escheator south of Trent.
Fyndon. 19
June 33 Edward I. [1305.]
Gloucester.
Inquisition:- Ywelegh. 22 August.
A rent of 14£ in Upton, Dughton, and Tettebury, which John de
Thorndon
acquired from William de Bello Campo, sometime earl of Warwick, is not
held
of the king immediately but of Peter de Breouse as mesne lord;
because
William de Breouse, long since deceased, who once held the manor of
Tettebury together with the said rent and other tenements belonging to
the
said manor of the king in chief by service of a knight's fee, gave the
said
rent a hundred and sixty years and more past to William de Bello
Campo,
great grandfather of the said earl, and Berta, daughter of the said
William
de Brewose, in free marriage.
Afterwards William de Breouse, kinsman and heir of the said William
de
Breouse, enfeoffed the said Peter de Breouse of the manor of Tettebury
with
the said earl's service of the said rent. Cf. Close Roll Calendar, p.
289.
C. Inq. Misc. File 64. (29.)"
[Cal. Inq. Misc., vol.1, p.534]

The William de Beauchamp who was the great-grandfather of
William, earl of Warwick, and husband of Bertha de Braose, was the son
of William (d. 1170) and Avicia as follows below. This is rather well
proven in that Tetbury came to William de Braose (d. 1211) as part or
all of the maritagium of his wife Maud de St. Valery: Tetbury was a
St. Valery possession, and would not be involved in a de Braose
marriage in a previous generation.

Cf. Chris Phillips. <Maud de Beauchamp, wife of Robert
Marmion', SGM, 29 Sept 2002.
VCH Gloucestershire 11:264, re: Tetbury

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  William & his
wife had six children:

i)          WILLIAM de Beauchamp (-1197).  The primary source which
confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.   The Annals of
Worcester record the death in 1197 of “Willelmus de Bello Campo”

WILLIAM de Beauchamp, son of WILLIAM de Beauchamp & his wife Bertha de
Briouse (-1197).  The primary source which confirms his parentage has
not yet been identified.   The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing
scutage payments in [1190/91], records "Willelmus de Bello Campo"
paying "lxx s de militibus, quos tenet de Rege in diversis comitatius,
vii milites" in Worcestershire[353].  The Red Book of the Exchequer,
listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "Willelmo de Bello
Campo" paying "vii l de toto sentagio quod promisit domino Regi" in
Worcestershire[354].  The Annals of Worcester record the death in 1197
of “Willelmus de Bello Campo”[355].

m JOAN, daughter of Sir THOMAS Walerie & his wife ---.  The primary
source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been
identified.

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See the account as stated in the previous generation. The wife
of William de Braose (d. 1197) was Bertha de Braose; I see no evidence
of the Joan de St. Valery alleged by Cawley or others, and this
appears to have worked its way into an early account to explain
(without evidence) the passage of Tetbury to the Beauchamps.

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William & his wife had one child:

1.         WALTER de Beauchamp (-14 Apr 1236).  The Red Book of the
Exchequer records "Walterus de Bello Campo" holding 207 knights´ fees
"in Uptone, Stanes, Graftone, Ayntone, Chedeleswale, Kokesaye,
Benetlega, Pancevot, Bouresdale, Costone, Dunclere" in Worcestershire
in [1210/12][356].  The Annals of Worcester record the death “die
Sancti Guthlaci” in 1235 of “Walterus de Bello Campo”[357].  The
Annals of Tewkesbury record the death “XVIII Kal Mai” in 1236 of “W de
Bellocampo”[358].  m (after 1212) JOAN Mortimer, daughter of ROGER
Mortimer & his second wife Isabel de Ferrers.  The Annals of Worcester
record that “Rogerus de Mortuo Mari…filiam suam” married “Waltero de
Bello Campo”[359].

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This Mortimer marriage may be correct; I have seen no evidence as
yet, one way or the other. The citation to the 'Annals of Worcester'
is certainly worth examining.

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 Walter & his wife had one child:

a)         WILLIAM de Beauchamp of Elmley, Worcestershire (-[7 Jan/21
Apr] 1268).

-        EARLS of WARWICK.

Which version is correct?

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I would at present reconstruct my 2002 pedigree of the Beauchamps
of Elmley as follows:

1. William de Braose = Bertha of William de = Avicia
of Bramber and Brecon I Hereford Beauchamp I
d. ca. 1192 I d. 1170 I
______________I ____________________I
I I
2. Bertha de Braose = William de Beauchamp
I d. 1197
________________I
I
I
3. Walter de Beauchamp = NN [Joan de Mortimer ?]
d. 1236 I
__________________I
I
I
4. William de Beauchamp = Isabel Mauduit
of Elmley, co. Worcs. I heiress (in her
d. aft 7 Jan 1268/9 I issue) of Warwick
____________________I
I
5. William de Beauchamp, 9th Earl of Warwick
d. ca. 9 June 1298


Cheers,

John




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