Re: Henry Project: Agatha

Stewart,

How about this alternative Russian variant.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/gen-medieval/2003-11/1069970533

It's not mentioned in your resumé.

With regards,
Hans Vogels



On 30 jun, 04:49, "Stewart Baldwin" <sba...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"M Sjostrom" <mqs...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

* it seems to me that the Henry project account fails to present the other
Russian possibility: that Agatha would have been daughter of king Vladimir
the great, of Kyjiv, by specifically his German wife (who is already
otherwise reconstrued as a great-aunt of emperor Henry III).
Surely she would suit hypothetically to that placement as well as
Dobronega,
who was not Iaroslav's daughter though counted as such somewhere.
Vladimir's
german wife would quite possibly giving birth in c1015
Surely THIS one is an hypothesis worth pursuing.

I see little there that is worth pursuing. The only source with which it
fits well is the late interpolation to the Laws of Edward the Confessor,
which of all of the sources is the least likely to be reliable. Any randomly
chosen Rurikid who is not chronologically impossible would fit just as well.
The supposed connection with Kuno of Ohningen is based on a late source of
questionable reliability which does not even name the Russian king who was
supposedly Kuno's son-in-law, and even if that part were correct it would
not fit the evidence of John of Worcester regarding Agatha's parentage.

* in my opinion, the Polish hypothesis is not essentially worse than those
presented Ludolf and Iaroslav hypotheses, so I cannot agree with the
assessment in the Henry Project that the polish hypothesis is
'improbable'
while e.g the relatively pitiful Ludolf = german hypothesis gets the much
better assessment 'possible'
This should not be understood that I would agree with those enthusiasts
who
have already declared the polish hypothesis (which imo has its flaws) as
the
right answer. [in my opinion, there is not yet one solution which would be
even essentially better than another or a few other solutions and they are
mutually excluding]

All else being equal, A hypothesis (such as the Polish Hypothesis) which
requires the emendation or reinterpretation of evidence is significantly
less likely than a hypothesis which accepts the evidence as it stands.

Stewart Baldwin

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