Re: Mummies found in Outer Hebrides: Kings of Ireland
- From: taf <taf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:37:08 -0700 (PDT)
On Oct 26, 10:16 pm, JacobSmith <tinst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 25, 9:49 pm, taf <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:> On Oct 25, 9:35 pm, JacobSmith <tinst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You need to go back to Psammetichus I:
No, you don't. In fact, you can't get within 1000 years of him, not
with actual evidence, that is. But why let evidence stand in the way
of a good story.
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Yes, you do. I will conclude with the following:
Not that what followed had any relevance whatsoever to either this
group or your ridiculous claims, but at least a conclusion has been
reached.
[snip: a whole lot of material that hasn't the slightest bit to do
with Ireland.]
At the same time, as before:
Crap repeated is still crap.
Ireland: 'the island of Banda of the women'
{taw-mawr'} is from an unused root meaning
[self-serving invented etymology deleted]
Irish commentary relates to the historical evidence about
the allies of Egyptian Pharaoh Necho II, the Carians, described
by Herodotos as being of Minoan descent.
It was a complete non sequitur the first time you said it, and thus it
remains.
[more irrelevancies deleted]
An important word in the Carian language is gela, translated
as king. Local Turkish Caria: Geyre. Míl Espáine, his given
name was Golam or Galamh. The Tyrrhenian [Tirrén] Sea is
part of the Mediterranean Sea off the western coast of Italy.
It is bounded by Corsica and Sardinia (west), Tuscany, Lazio,
Campania, and Calabria (east), and Sicily (south). Gela (Sicily)
was founded around 688 BC by colonists from Rhodes and Crete.
Another important word in the Carian language is banda, which
is translated as victory.
.. . . and another important word, gelatin: obviously, combining the
Carian word for royalty with, well, it's obvious. It was named for
King Tinney. This is the kind of quackery that comes from a novice
playing etymologist. Nothing but 'Just So Stories'. Superficial
similarities between a Sicilian port and an Anatolian word for king do
not a cultural connection make.
The eDIL Electronic Dictionary of the Irish Language translates
banda as womanly. Ireland itself was known in ancient times
as 'the island of Banda of the women' (Condren, 1989).
Oh, there were Women in Ireland. WOMEN, of all things. I never
expected that! Well if the Irish had women, then they must have been
from the Middle East.
Cin Drom Snechta: Historians say that there were exiles
of Hebrew women in Erinn at the coming of the sons of
Milesius,
For those who haven't been following (fully understandable) Mr. Tinney
has his own dictionary. "Fact" means 'any old BS, as long as it is
called a fact enough times'. Here he uses "historians" to refer to
people writing 200 years ago, when history was still an avocation, and
not yet a scholarly science, or the creators of recent advertisements,
or actual historians who in their own words describe the pedigrees in
question as outright inventions, but whose text can be taken out of
context to pretend that it supports the mythology being peddled as
fact.
Why Dowries?:
[sigh] Why not? Better yet, why bother, as dowries are a global
phenomenon. I guess all the world is Irish.
[Carthaginian commerce was by sea throughout the Mediterranean
Oh, the sea. Well that narrows things down, given that use of the sea
can be demonstrated in Australia 40,000 years ago, and America 13,000
years ago, and basically all over the bloody planet, then the fact
that the Cartaginians took to the sea and Ireland is an Island, well
that is surely significant.
You lack vital understanding of the resources.
No, but you lack a vital grip on the nature of sources and their use.
I have clearly noted, among many other references:
[sigh, here we go again]
The Irish Mil genealogies are military, ship census
and family data, connected by historical time period
after the Battle of Carchemish, circa 605 B.C., when
You keep saying this, again and again and again. You made this up.
You haven't the slightest evidence that any of this existed. It is
your own fantasy. There were no such ship censuses. The only
evidence you have come up with for any so called 'historical records'
are large rocks with single names carved in them. Let's see. A ship
census, with the name of each passenger carved on a rock weighing more
than they do. Of course. Throughout time, navies always have kept
their records on large rocks, buoyancy being so completely unimportant
when it comes to nautical sciences.
The various curses placed against the sons of Mil
This curse, taken from Neo-Assyrian Treaties
Again, something so absolutely unique to the Irish: a curse. Tell you
what. This may come as a surprise to you, but cultures without curses
are about as common as cultures without women.
And still Mr. Tinney focuses on trying to prove mythology, not
genealogy. His pedigree fails 1000 years more recently, and not in
Ireland. He is repeatedly asked for his evidence, and the closest he
comes is to argue that because there were cursing women in Anatolia
and carved boulders in Eire, then (apparently) pedigrees written down
last Thursday must derive from authentic ships' muster rolls.
Completely barmy, but there it is.
taf
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