Re: Fabian / Fabius / Fabii , family history

On Sep 12, 4:51 pm, Christopher Ingham <christophering...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Sep 12, 7:38 pm, pj.evans....@xxxxxxx wrote:



On Sep 12, 2:19 pm, Christopher Ingham <christophering...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sep 12, 11:55 am, pj.evans....@xxxxxxx wrote:

On Sep 12, 8:36 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> This document is published on the web.http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_86g8q4vddk
Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus Cunctator (ca. 280 BC–203 BC), was a
Roman politician and general, born in Rome around 280 BC and died in
Rome in 203 BC.His family was from the area now called iraq or Yemen
possibly , of the ' Sabian " tribe , then a part of ROME / Roman
territories

[snip]
That's just wrong.

The Fabia comprised one of the oldest patrician gentes in Rome, and
were of either Latin or Sabine origin. Sabina was a territory in the
immediate neighborhood of Rome. (The Fabia claimed descent from
Hercules and Evander, btw:-)

At that time, Rome was still restricted to Italy and its neighboring
islands; the Mediterranean was controlled by Carthage,

Carthage's control never extended to the eastern Mediterranean, which
in this period was surrounded mostly by the Hellenistic kingdoms.

and Yemen

wasn't controlled by either one. (I don't believe that Rome ever
controlled Yemen, or even most of the Arabian peninsula.)

The Roman province of Arabia consisted primarily of the Sinai
peninsula and the lands extending northwards to Judea and Syria. The
Arabian peninsula was a frontier region administered by Rome to
varying extents throughout the imperial era, but mostly only
nominally, although it did control the sea trade routes in the area of
Yemen.

Christopher Ingham

That's rather later than Fabius, though.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I was not addressing the spurious claim of the OP, but only noting
that Rome did have a presence in Yemen at some point.

Christopher Ingham

I seem to recall that they didn't have much access to that area until
they took over Egypt and Judea - that was 1st century BCE, a century
or more after Fabius.
Rome had nominal control of Arabia after that, but I really don't
think they made much of an impression on it. ('Softened it up for the
later empires' is more like it.)
.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: The EU
    ... The Great Traitor Edward Heath sigfned the Treaty of Rome. ... The UK cannot control anything now. ...
    (uk.politics.misc)
  • Re: Fabian / Fabius / Fabii , family history
    ... Rome in 203 BC.His family was from the area now called iraq or Yemen ... peninsula and the lands extending northwards to Judea and Syria. ... Arabian peninsula was a frontier region administered by Rome to ... although it did control the sea trade routes in the area of ...
    (soc.genealogy.medieval)
  • Re: OT: Canada Agrees to be Missile Target
    ... >>> I'd have to check a map and do some math but I think Rome spread peace ... > Wasn't there a TV show that started "We control the numerator and the ... > The US said "You'd better do what we want or we will kill you with these ...
    (sci.electronics.design)
  • Re: Fabian / Fabius / Fabii , family history
    ... Roman politician and general, born in Rome around 280 BC and died in ... Rome in 203 BC.His family was from the area now called iraq or Yemen ... Carthage's control never extended to the eastern Mediterranean, ... peninsula and the lands extending northwards to Judea and Syria. ...
    (soc.genealogy.medieval)
  • Re: Fabian / Fabius / Fabii , family history
    ... Roman politician and general, born in Rome around 280 BC and died in ... Rome in 203 BC.His family was from the area now called iraq or Yemen ... Carthage's control never extended to the eastern Mediterranean, ... peninsula and the lands extending northwards to Judea and Syria. ...
    (soc.genealogy.medieval)