Re: Emperor Isaac II Angelo's wife Eirene

Chuck Owens wrote:
I agree. It's a definite possibility that Demetrios 152 is the same
person as Demetrios 20120. I'm wandering why Mr. Cawley would mention
the seal under Demetrios 3.c. unless he thought Demetrios 152 and
Demetrios 20120 were one and the same person.

Chuck

In writing about Byzantine nobles about whom we know very little, it is probably a good strategy to mention a potentially relevant seal without making any claims. We don't want to say Demetrios, father of Konstantinos (d. 1206), and Demetrios of the seal are "probably the same person." I believe we just don't have enough information for that conclusion. (Has anyone seen Jean Darrouzès's /Georges et Dèmètrios Tornikès, Lettres et discours/, a 382-page book cited by Cawley but not seen by him? I wonder if there is any more detailed information there.) I think that mentioning the seal under Demetrios's sketch is saying implicitly that the seal could well belong to this Demetrios. The sketches are probably more readable if they are not sprinkled with "could well be the same as," "might be the same as," etc. In the same vein, note that Cawley's sketch of Konstantinos doesn't even claim that the Konstantinos who was head of the imperial guard which suppressed a riot in Constantinople in 1201 is the same person as Konstantinos who was killed in Bulgaria in 1206, though it is a good guess that they are identical (these two pieces of information come from the same source, namely Choniates).

-- Don Stone
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