Re: ID: Alice Baratyne m Willmot/Cotsmore/Doyley
- From: mjcar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:48:13 -0800 (PST)
On Jan 31, 12:17 pm, mj...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
According to the Visitation of Oxford, 1566, p 301, John Willmot
married "Alice Barantine" of Haseley Court.
She is said to have married afterwards (ii) James Cotsmore and (iii)
Thomas Doyley [possibly the one of the name who died in 1545 - see VCH
Oxon vol 7 sub Chislehampton].
Does anyone know how Alice fits into the Barantyne family of Haseley
Court?
Two additional putative identities for this Alice may be found in
other sources:
(a) sister of John Glydesdale, son of John Felde [sic]
Rose Bevan has identified a number of PROCAT documents which relate to
Thomas Doyley and his wife Alice, formerly the wife of William [not
James] Cottesmore, e.g.:
"John Glyddesdall, gentleman, son of John Felde v. Thomas Doyle,
gentleman, and William, his brother: theft of deeds at Chislington
relating to the marriage settlement of Alice, wife of the said Thomas
and sister of complainant: Oxford, Buckingham"; dated 1518-1529 (PRO C
1/516/42)
Some sort of connection between the Glydesdales and the Wilmots is
suggested by the following:
"John Wylmot of Woolstone (Wolfreston), yeoman, v. John, son and
executor of John Hidden alias Glydesdale: loan the bond for which has
been stolen from complainant: Berkshire"; dated 1551-3. (PRO C
1/1322/46-48)
A connection with the Barnatynes is also suggested:
"Thomas Doyle and Alice, his wife, executrix and late the wife of
William Cottesmore of Brightwell Baldwin (Oxon), esquire v. William
Barantyne, knight, John, son of the said William Cottesmore, and John
Tyse, alias Harper, clerk, feoffee to uses: lands in Yaverland, Wathe
(Week in Godshill?), Nettlecombe, Brading, and Adgestone, late of John
Cottesmore, knight, father of the said William: Isle of Wight, Hants";
dated 1518-1529 (PRO C 1/499/26)
William Cottesmore was dead by 1519, when his will was proved in the
Prerogative Court of Canterbury [Prob 11/19: William Cottusmore of
Brightwell Baldwin]; indeed, it seems he was probably dead at least a
year earlier, when his widow appears to have been remarried to Thomas
Doyley:
"Thomas Doyly and Alice, his wife, executrix and late the wife of
William Cotesmore. v. Richard Bekyngham, of Pudlicott: refusal to
settle lands called `Therne,' and the reversion of others expectant on
the death of Ellen, defendant's wife, upon Robert, his son, and Alice,
daughter of the said William, on their marriage, as by indenture
agreed: Oxford"; dated 1515-1518 (PROCAT C 1/402/47)
VCH Oxon (vol 7, sub Chislehampton) tells us that in 1517 William
Cottesmore was acting as trustee for John Wilmot - possibly the minor
son of John Wilmot and Alice.
William Cottesmore and Alice cannot have been married earlier than
1509, for VCH Oxon also states that his first wife, the heiress
Elizabeth Bedwall, was still living "after 1508" (vol 8, sub Britwell
Salome).
(b) daughter of - Hall of Uxbridge
The Visitation of Oxfordshire also has a pedigree for the Doyleys (p
224). This states that Thomas Doyley was married twice. His first
wife was Alice Coulson, and his second wife was "Alice, daughter of
Hall of Uxbridge, and widow of William Cottesmore".
Thomas Doyley's will of 1545 names his wife as Alice, so she was still
living then (8 June).
According to the Visitation, she was the mother of Thomas Doyley's
younger children.
My thanks to Rosie Bevan for her valuable assistance in this.
It seems this is one of those cases wherein further research throws up
additional questions rather than answers!
MA-R
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