Re: Proposed Change: Beconshaw, of Moyles Court White (I00496186)

On Jan 31, 10:48 am, mj...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:16 am, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Will Johnson made me aware of John Lisle, who was not a Viscount, and why was his wife known as "the old Countess Lisle"?

I have this John Lisle in my system with the note he was a regicide.

She was known as 'Lady Lisle'.  The usual explanation given is that
John Lisle, her husband, sat in Cromwell's 'Other House' (1657-1659).

See the ODNB articles for her and her husband on this and related
points.  These refer to the Lisles [she was his second wife] having
*three* children: William, Tryphena (who married twice, once to a Mr
Lloyd) and Bridget (married Leonard Hoar and Hezekiah Usher).

I should add that, although ODNB states the identity of the mother of
Alice Lisle nee Beconshaw is unknown, she was called "Dame Edith" (The
Parish Registers and Parochial Documents in the Archdeaconry of
Winchester", Fearon & Williams, 1909, p 51.

This would represent an addition for ODNB.

It seems the references to John as "Viscount Lisle" are long-standing
- but erroneous. Cromwell appears to have granted a couple of
peerages, but Lisle did not receive one.

MA-R
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