Re: Peck Pedigree resolution: CHARLEMAGNE DESCENT

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:08:41 -0800 (PST) , Bill Arnold <billarnoldfla@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
BA: Copernicus was alone in believing Ptolemy was wrong,
and history has proven him correct.

no, there were several before Copernicus who were unhappy with Ptolemy's model, in particular Regiomontanus (aka Johannes Muller) who wrote in a letter to Giovanni Bianchini:

"I cannot wonder at the indolence of common astronomers of our age, who, . . . receive as something divine and immutable whatever they come upon in books either of tables or their canons, for they believe in writers and make no effort to find the truth."


TAF: History has proven him more correct than Ptolemy, but still incorrect.

true

Have you looked up what epicircles are and why they are relevant to
this issue?

BA: Gadzooks! How lame in the brain art thou! Follow closely now,
Monsieu scientist! It is *epicycles* and they have absolutely *nothing*
to do with the discussion at hand. Ptolemy used *epicycles* as his
model to explain solar and planetary motion around the earth. Why?
Because Aristotle wanted to *Save the Appearance* of reality, which
had been the teachings of Plato. The appearance of reality is that
the sun goes around the earth. Copernicus ignored the model which
Ptolemy attempted to use to save the appearance of reality and instead
Copernicus came up with the brilliant idea that the *Sun Stands Still*
and all the planets go round it in motion. But that was *not* his explanation
of the appearance of the motion of the sun. The sun appears to move
around the earth because the earth turns on its axis! When are you
going to get it?

Bill

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